Originally Posted by bumroll

If you catch them in your house, cave their head in and dig a big hole in the garden, put the low life into said hole and cover up, plant a few flowers, Job jobbed and if a nice looking policeman knocks on your door asking have you seen this person who has been missing for a few weeks............ Erm no officer.!

There's a quite long thread elsewhere about covert corpse disposal; it's quite fiendish- phosphoric acid, thermite, industrial mincers, you name it! One ARRSE'r in particular seemed to really...know...his...stuff!

What pisses me off more than anything about the present justice system (perceived or otherwise) is that if someone illegally enters my home and puts my family at risk, is the fact that I have to even think about considering any consequences to me if I use extreme force to defend my family and home by tackling and ejecting the intruder.
I will have quite enough to think about without considering whether or not I should temper my action against any intruder who shouldn't be there in the first place.
I'm afraid anyone who illegally enters my home in the wee hours with malice aforethought will get all I can throw against them and damn the consequences. I'll pick up the first item to hand and use it with extreme prejudice. If that happens to be a hammer from my toolbox (because I daren't leave it in the van overnight) then they're going to have an awful lot of pain inflicted on them.
If the law is changed in favour of people defending their homes then all the better. It's too vague at the moment. If some burglar gets a lot more than they expected then it's tough, and an occupational hazard that just might make some of them reconsider their actions.
That I should have to lie and say they attacked me first, just shows how ridiculous the present situation is. I'm an honest man and I'll effectively have to lie to see them get the justice they deserve. How can that possibly be right?

Originally Posted by auscam

Originally Posted by bumroll

If you catch them in your house, cave their head in and dig a big hole in the garden, put the low life into said hole and cover up, plant a few flowers, Job jobbed and if a nice looking policeman knocks on your door asking have you seen this person who has been missing for a few weeks............ Erm no officer.!

There's a quite long thread elsewhere about covert corpse disposal; it's quite fiendish- phosphoric acid, thermite, industrial mincers, you name it! One ARRSE'r in particular seemed to really...know...his...stuff!

Pig farms, always know were your local pig farm is.

Originally Posted by Semper_Flexibilis

Originally Posted by auscam

Originally Posted by bumroll

If you catch them in your house, cave their head in and dig a big hole in the garden, put the low life into said hole and cover up, plant a few flowers, Job jobbed and if a nice looking policeman knocks on your door asking have you seen this person who has been missing for a few weeks............ Erm no officer.!

There's a quite long thread elsewhere about covert corpse disposal; it's quite fiendish- phosphoric acid, thermite, industrial mincers, you name it! One ARRSE'r in particular seemed to really...know...his...stuff!

Pig farms, always know were your local pig farm is.

I think that was mentioned in some detail as well! A late mate was with 51 FNQR in Cairns in the 1980's and was away on patrol for weeks on end. An Army household, they got jack of being burgled while they were off serving the community, and rigged up a leaf from a truck spring with a 4x2 bolted to the end, and set it up at the only unlocked window. Came back from patrol to find the trap sprung, and the 4x2 split most of the way down.

No more burglaries...

Whilst I agree with you in essence B_S we cannot descend to the situation where the penalty for burglary is death.
I fully agree that anyone should be able to defend themselves or their loved ones but not have carte blanche to kill someone because they are in your home.
Standard procedure when dealing with an intruder should be to make a lot of noise and put lights on. If you do that you are giving an intruder the time and ability to escape. Most burglars are sneak thieves and, I'm told, are generally of small and wiry stature, very likely to run if challenged and given a clear escape route.

Originally Posted by Markintime

Whilst I agree with you in essence B_S we cannot descend to the situation where the penalty for burglary is death.
I fully agree that anyone should be able to defend themselves or their loved ones but not have carte blanche to kill someone because they are in your home.
Standard procedure when dealing with an intruder should be to make a lot of noise and put lights on. If you do that you are giving an intruder the time and ability to escape. Most burglars are sneak thieves and, I'm told, are generally of small and wiry stature, very likely to run if challenged and given a clear escape route.

NO, but if the penalty for burglary was ten years without any prospect of parole then there wouldn't be much of a problem.

Originally Posted by Markintime

Standard procedure when dealing with an intruder should be to make a lot of noise and put lights on..

Indeed, and as I'm twatting the scrote with a hatchet it will certainly make lots of noise…

Originally Posted by Markintime

Whilst I agree with you in essence B_S we cannot descend to the situation where the penalty for burglary is death.
I fully agree that anyone should be able to defend themselves or their loved ones but not have carte blanche to kill someone because they are in your home.
Standard procedure when dealing with an intruder should be to make a lot of noise and put lights on. If you do that you are giving an intruder the time and ability to escape. Most burglars are sneak thieves and, I'm told, are generally of small and wiry stature, very likely to run if challenged and given a clear escape route.

Lots of noise and light so they can see how many they face and their location? No thanks.
In my neck of the woods the common defence, before being patted on the head, is that they needed to do this to feed their drug habit.
I prefer the idea that when you force entry to property to which you have not been invited you become an outlaw and forfeit rights. Those arrested should be punished in a way which does not become a holiday as is the present situation.
Furthermore, the constabularies and the courts should make it quite clear that the victim is the one who has been wronged, something against which there is no defence.

Originally Posted by Markintime

Whilst I agree with you in essence B_S we cannot descend to the situation where the penalty for burglary is death.
I fully agree that anyone should be able to defend themselves or their loved ones but not have carte blanche to kill someone because they are in your home.
Standard procedure when dealing with an intruder should be to make a lot of noise and put lights on. If you do that you are giving an intruder the time and ability to escape. Most burglars are sneak thieves and, I'm told, are generally of small and wiry stature, very likely to run if challenged and given a clear escape route.

I agree. I'm not advocating death for burglars, just pain. (This isn't the NAAFI ).
If I pick up a hammer I wouldn't deliberately use it on their head, but if their arm/fingers/leg/foot/arsehole gets broken then so be it.
I would make a noise coming down but if they were lying in wait for me then I wouldn't have much choice. I expect most would flee at the first noise they hear.
Bit of a quandary there, as I'd want to catch them if possible (or at least identify them), although that wouldn't be my prime thought at the time.

Originally Posted by Herrumph

Originally Posted by Fallschirmjager

When I was a civvy living in Manchester back in the eighties a mucker of mine caught someone trying to rob his house. He invited a few of his friends around. The prick was basically tortured for 2 days and was even bummed though not by me as I wasn't there of course. TBH he was lucky to get away with his life.

3 PARA Mortar material from the very start.

It makes a good point though. Don't just batter and abuse them, do something so unspeakable that they won't want to report it.

I think it's called aversion therapy .

I'm not sure what is worse, torture or being shagged by a Mancunian :D

Having been a victim of an aggravated burglary and ABH I make sure I's up with a tool if I hear any noises.
IF I find some one in my house up to no good I will defend my family, if that means I end up putting the fvck in coma so be it.