Tories to sack 80% of teachers

**mushroom** · 18-01-2010, 09:56

Latest bright idea from the Blair Light mob.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...d-Cameron.html

**Idrach** · 18-01-2010, 10:00

You go from

Graduates would no longer be able to enter the profession without a high standard degree qualification.

to

Originally Posted by mushroom

Tories to sack 80% of teachers

I really hope you're representing the UK at the long jump in next year's Olympics ...

**stacker1** · 18-01-2010, 10:01

Originally Posted by mushroom

Latest bright idea from the Blair Light mob.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...d-Cameron.html

Yes, how dare they try to raise standards in schools.

**mushroom** · 18-01-2010, 10:47

They are not raising standards in schools they are doing some cheap electioneering.

If they applied this criteria to schools now they would have to sack most of the existing teachers.

**TopBadger** · 18-01-2010, 10:48

Its about recruitment... not sacking... back to school for you methinks

**usmarox** · 18-01-2010, 10:49

Originally Posted by mushroom

They are not raising standards in schools they are doing some cheap electioneering.

If they applied this criteria to schools now they would have to sack most of the existing teachers.

Uh....how does that work? Very nearly every PGCE programme I'm aware of requires a 2:2 degree for entry anyway. Which is what they're proposing.

**Markintime** · 18-01-2010, 10:52

Originally Posted by mushroom

They are not raising standards in schools they are doing some cheap electioneering.

If they applied this criteria to schools now they would have to sack most of the existing teachers.

Whilst it's clearly impractical to sack most of the teachers, do you think it reasonable to maintain poor teachers who lack motivation and skill or who are just plain lazy?
If you up the entry standards then you are raising the bar for the whole profession and it would probably be much more effective than constant exams as a measure of performance.

**Badgertastic** · 18-01-2010, 10:53

Sorry, where did you get that 80% figure from?

Oh, that's right, you made it up.

Personally, I can't see a problem with wanting teachers to have good degrees - all too often it's what people go into when they can't actually figure out what job they want to do when they leave uni - and it should be a choice, not a last resort.

I can't really see the arbitrary sacking of people who got a job before the previous requirements came into force either...

**tropper66** · 18-01-2010, 10:57

why do stupid people even bother posting on what is obviously very poor spin, and complete crap

**Jungelism** · 18-01-2010, 11:00

Originally Posted by mushroom

Latest bright idea from the Blair Light mob.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...d-Cameron.html

Mong. How can you expect those with lower standards of education to provide the same standard of teaching as those who have attained good degrees from quality universities? Here we're talking Russell Group rather than ex-polys offering "Food and Nuitrition."
Allowing teachers to restrain pupils without fear of the inevitable lawsuit from these "no-win, no fee" companies is a good idea. Obviously there will be a few isolated cases of taking it too far, but its better than teachers suffering physical injury from unruly gobby cnuts.

**Semper_Flexibilis** · 18-01-2010, 11:01

Originally Posted by mushroom

Latest bright idea from the Blair Light mob.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...d-Cameron.html

Much of the output of Teacher Training Colleges with their bare pass Degree's in nasal hair platting and other such bullshit 'degrees' couldn't even tie their own showlaces, let alone teach or inspire kids.

**fertman** · 18-01-2010, 11:12

Erm, a little conflict in terms here....'UK' and 'quality universities' don't fit well together in a sentence these days unless it is couched in the negative.

**smudge67** · 18-01-2010, 11:14

Complete non-story IMO

**mph1977** · 18-01-2010, 11:15

Originally Posted by usmarox

Uh....how does that work? Very nearly every PGCE programme I'm aware of requires a 2:2 degree for entry anyway. Which is what they're proposing.

doesn't account for the BEd/ BA+QTS types though where a pass or a Richard = qualified to teach

**Jungelism** · 18-01-2010, 11:19

Originally Posted by fertman

Erm, a little conflict in terms here....'UK' and 'quality universities' don't fit well together in a sentence these days unless it is couched in the negative.

Sure. Only 4/10 of the World Top 10 Universities, and 18 of the top 100 are from the UK. Thats fcuking appalling from a country with 60 million people.