We prefer to send Kosovar and afghan refugees to Dover, you seem to take very good care of them !

Originally Posted by fantassin

Shiite farmers ? You should be grateful that there are still enough French farmers to raise sane cows, foie gras, Charolais beef and many other delicacies that millions of brits will enjoy, both in and out of France...honest, we are thankful for your contribution you know....because if we were to count on Sainsbury and Tesco for Christmas....

Stop it - I have to spend the next week in Finland eating shredded Reindeer arse with mashed potato and cranberry sauce.....with shiite wine from Peru at Euro 10 a bottle...

Did venison filet with foie gras sauce last night though

I think I am being Wah'd here ;)

Originally Posted by re-stilly

It means than in spite of all the atlantic boot licking and all the attempts at torpedoing the european project from both outside and within, the UK is still considered as "part of the club", that in spite of the euro-sceptic the UK is still considered a european country and that its opinion matter

Total balls, the only reason is to make sure we keep paying into the EU coffers at a fcuking stupid amount.

"Oh look they really love us" do they fcuk, they hate us and we know it and so do they.

Government Spending and net EU budget contributions? Government spending 2008-09: £623bn, net EU contribution: £3bn

Government spending 2009/10: £671bn, net EU contribution: £4.1bn (i.e. 0.6% of total government spending).

Perhaps you would now like to compare that with the United Kingdom's spending on defence over the same period?

Thought not!

Originally Posted by Iolis

Originally Posted by re-stilly

It means than in spite of all the atlantic boot licking and all the attempts at torpedoing the european project from both outside and within, the UK is still considered as "part of the club", that in spite of the euro-sceptic the UK is still considered a european country and that its opinion matter

Total balls, the only reason is to make sure we keep paying into the EU coffers at a fcuking stupid amount.

"Oh look they really love us" do they fcuk, they hate us and we know it and so do they.

Government Spending and net EU budget contributions? Government spending 2008-09: £623bn, net EU contribution: £3bn

Government spending 2009/10: £671bn, net EU contribution: £4.1bn (i.e. 0.6% of total government spending).

Perhaps you would now like to compare that with the United Kingdom's spending on defence over the same period?

Thought not!

..and most of that difference is due to the pathetic performance of the pound against the euro - dropping 30%'ish

Originally Posted by Iolis

Originally Posted by re-stilly

It means than in spite of all the atlantic boot licking and all the attempts at torpedoing the european project from both outside and within, the UK is still considered as "part of the club", that in spite of the euro-sceptic the UK is still considered a european country and that its opinion matter

Total balls, the only reason is to make sure we keep paying into the EU coffers at a fcuking stupid amount.

"Oh look they really love us" do they fcuk, they hate us and we know it and so do they.

Government Spending and net EU budget contributions? Government spending 2008-09: £623bn, net EU contribution: £3bn

Government spending 2009/10: £671bn, net EU contribution: £4.1bn (i.e. 0.6% of total government spending).

Perhaps you would now like to compare that with the United Kingdom's spending on defence over the same period?

Thought not!

Defence spending is for the benefit of the UK not for some shit little farmer with 2 cows and a pig in the Dordogne, I couldn't care if the Defence budget was 10% of GDP as long as we didn't have to supplement the remainder of europe.

Originally Posted by re-stilly

Originally Posted by Iolis

Originally Posted by re-stilly

It means than in spite of all the atlantic boot licking and all the attempts at torpedoing the european project from both outside and within, the UK is still considered as "part of the club", that in spite of the euro-sceptic the UK is still considered a european country and that its opinion matter

Total balls, the only reason is to make sure we keep paying into the EU coffers at a fcuking stupid amount.

"Oh look they really love us" do they fcuk, they hate us and we know it and so do they.

Government Spending and net EU budget contributions? Government spending 2008-09: £623bn, net EU contribution: £3bn

Government spending 2009/10: £671bn, net EU contribution: £4.1bn (i.e. 0.6% of total government spending).

Perhaps you would now like to compare that with the United Kingdom's spending on defence over the same period?

Thought not!

Defence spending is for the benefit of the UK not for some s*** little farmer with 2 cows and a pig in the Dordogne, I couldn't care if the Defence budget was 10% of GDP as long as we didn't have to supplement the remainder of europe.

I was staying at a farm B&B in Jockland a couple of weeks back - 220 dairy cows, 3 outlaying farms owned by sons, all getting a subsidy...

Originally Posted by re-stilly

Originally Posted by fantassin

See, even when you are shown the love, you lash back....there is no pleasing you lot...

But it is not love it is greed, they want the UK to prop up their shite farmers etc. If it was true love the EU would let us go.

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Still trotting out verbatim the same old rubbish from the 1980s I see. Trouble with the Eurosceptics that they want you to think with your emotions rather than your brain. Thats they are never actually precise about anything they complain about!

I am not going to apologise for not wanting to be part of the European love in. I don't want to be part or a European superstate end of.

Originally Posted by re-stilly

I am not going to apologise for not wanting to be part of the European love in. I don't want to be part or a European superstate end of.

One does not expect you to apologise for anything at all. Opinions on the EU are polarised in the United Kingdom and everyone has his view which stimulates debate, but what you find is, for the most part, opinion amounting to little more than parroting the man in the pub who in turn parrots the Mail or the Sun. There is very little attempt made by those who enter into discourse to actually exercise any critical thinking or engage in any real analysis beyond what is spoonfed the morning paper and to regard the comments therein as authoritative.