Originally Posted by Markintime

Originally Posted by jagman

Originally Posted by ashie

Could that just possibly be because there are several "Royal" forces in the EU? And because the formal name of "Britain" is "The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland"?

Is that right?
The Royal Navy has been the Royal Navy for centuries. The whole planet recognises that.It has never been the UK Navy.
But I suppose that doesn't fit with your taste for "correcting" anything that doesn't suit your masters does it?
Likewise the Royal Air Force is internationally recognised by that name.
And its an awfully long time that the army has been known simply as the British Army.

You pesistently spout complete bollox Ashie and you are rather tedious with it. There is no need or justification in altering any of those names other than the great Labour plan to erase our national identity.
We all know it. Even you know it, you just believe its justified and right.

Ashie is wrong, death to Ashie etc etc etc. However, the Dutch call their navy the Royal Navy they call our navy the British or UK Royal Navy, so does every other country that has a monarchy.

No. The Cloggie navy is only called the Royal Navy in Dutch (Koninklijke Marine), in English it is the Royal Netherlands Navy. In English, only the Royal Navy is called the Royal Navy.
Not that I give a toss.

Originally Posted by jagman

Originally Posted by Markintime

Originally Posted by Werewolf

Originally Posted by jagman

Originally Posted by Werewolf

Scoobish, you're preaching to the converted. I would vote UKIP if I thought they stood a decent chance of forming a government. Unfortunately, I just don't see it happening. At the next general election, most people will be so desperate to get rid of ZANU-Labour they will vote for the Tories as they are the party with the best chance of winning.

After 12 long years, do you really think people are going to risk letting ZANU-Labour back in by splitting their votes? Christ, just typing that brought me out in a cold sweat!

I would be delighted to be proven wrong, however.

I currently intend to vote UKIP. Cameron is a slimy cnut who will betray this country just the same as Brown and his puppetmaster Mandelcnut.
If that lets Brown back in then so be it, Cameron is no better.

Oh, come ON! I'm Scottish and, as such, programmed on a genetic level to hate the Tories. But even I would'nt accuse Cameron of being as bad as BROWN!

See, he makes you larf too :D

Splendid :D In truth I thin UKIP are small fry but I can't see many alternatives
But I still will not vote for Cameron, simply because he has weasled out of dealing with the Lisbon Treaty, he has sold out and will not get my vote!

I would vote UKIP also if I knew they stood any chance but in my area the Tories have held a solid seat for many years & it does'nt show any sign of shifting

Cameron has to prove & back up the Guarantee he made, not come out stating the ref is pointless by the time he comes to office & it will take (in reality) years to claw any UK soverienty back, I for one dis-agree in having a EU commisionaire & it's not due to just having Bliar as a candidate.

Cameron lost my confidence atm, we need a Government with a solid backbone

Good afternoon comrades....what a glorious Day in our beloved socialist union.....

Seems like Maggie was right all along. The Reunification of Germany and the break down of communism has indeed made the UK a much worse place to be. As some State's leave communism behind, other's, like us, are bordering on adopting it...

Two months before the fall of the Berlin Wall, Margaret Thatcher told President Gorbachev that neither Britain nor Western Europe wanted the reunification of Germany and made clear that she wanted the Soviet leader to do what he could to stop it.

In an extraordinary frank meeting with Mr Gorbachev in Moscow in 1989 — never before fully reported — Mrs Thatcher said the destabilisation of Eastern Europe and the breakdown of the Warsaw Pact were also not in the West’s interests. She noted the huge changes happening across Eastern Europe, but she insisted that the West would not push for its decommunisation. Nor would it do anything to risk the security of the Soviet Union.

Even 20 years later, her remarks are likely to cause uproar. They are all the more explosive as she admitted that what she said was quite different from the West’s public pronouncements and official Nato communiqués. She told Mr Gorbachev that he should pay no attention to these.

“We do not want a united Germany,” she said. “This would lead to a change to postwar borders, and we cannot allow that because such a development would undermine the stability of the whole international situation and could endanger our security.”

Originally Posted by petergriffen

Good afternoon comrades....what a glorious Day in our beloved socialist union.....

What do you mean "our"?
Sod all to do with me. You can keep your EU and your socialism to yourself

Originally Posted by jagman

Originally Posted by petergriffen

Good afternoon comrades....what a glorious Day in our beloved socialist union.....

What do you mean "our"?
Sod all to do with me. You can keep your EU and your socialism to yourself

Ah Comrade, in our beloved union Yes means no, and no means yes.....

Oh shit I'm fucked!!


*runs away*

Originally Posted by seaweed

Now you know why our 'Supreme Court' sports a bunch of flowers rather than the Royal Arms - it is not there to dispense the Queen's Justice, which has ruled us for hundreds of years, but European Law. Indeed that is why we have to move from the House of Lords system, which like all great British cobble-ups has evolved to serve us perfectly well, but is incompatible with a uniform system of European justice. It is a very short step from here, post-Lisbon, to the EU saying the justice system must be the same for all its people wherever in the EU they are. Kiss our system (including our magistrates' courts) goodbye while you still can.

*runs back in*


If thats the case, why isn't every other EU nation with a Monarchy doing the same, what makes the UK's royal family such a threat?.....or maybe the more logical argument is that there is a section of the British political class....let's call them Labour and it's hangers on, who dislike the whole system in the UK and are trying to alter it all.

I doubt there is some vast European wide conspiracy to shaft the Queen (she is related after all to most of Europes other royals), there may on the other hand be a home grown one



Frankly I think you all underestimate the lady , she'll still be large and in charge when Gordo has shuffled off into obscurity.....and this is coming from a Paddy.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8350660.stm

another EU based idiocy

Sir George Earle: Daily Telegraph 9.11.09

Voting for Ukip

SIR – Dr Barry Moyse (Letters, November 7) asks how voting for Ukip can help its cause of EU withdrawal if that means blocking a “Eurosceptic” Conservative.

To answer this hoary old Tory gripe, Ukip’s leader has promised for years now not to oppose any sitting MP who signs up to the Better Off Out Campaign. Any MP prepared to incur his leader’s wrath can thereby be spared and earn our support.

Ukip will field up to 500 candidates next year. Many will lose their deposits and few may have any hope of winning in our first-past-the-post system. However, they will give the public their only chance of voting for withdrawal now that David Cameron has abandoned his referendum pledge.

Lisbon has completed our integration into the post-democratic EU single state. Does it matter much which of the main three parties sits in Westminster?

Sir George Earle Baronettet
Crediton, Devon

Originally Posted by scoobish

The EU refere to OUR Armed Forces as
UK Army
UK Navy
UK Air Force now
not:
BRITISH Army
ROYAL Navy or
ROYAL Air Force

that really grips me. As I remember correctly, in my attestation when joining up was an allegience to Queen and Country.

remember this? doesn't say anything about us serving the unelected EU Commission does it?

Those who believe in God use the following words:

I (your name), swear by Almighty God that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II, her heirs and successors and that I will as in duty bound honestly and faithfully defend Her Majesty, her heirs and successors in person, crown and dignity against all enemies and will observe and obey all orders of Her Majesty, her heirs and successors and of the generals and officers set over me.
Others replace the words "swear by Almighty God" with "solemnly, sincerely and truly declare and affirm".[

Doesn't say anything about serving a one eyed jock twat either.

Just Liz, Charlie, Wills and the officer corps.