Thread: What have the Conservative Government ever done for us ?

Originally Posted by Oil_Slick

Originally Posted by Taffnp

Originally Posted by Oil_Slick

Originally Posted by Taffnp

I have never taken much of an interest in politics, have been out of work under the tories and Labour so no difference there.
All I can remember is a Labour government.

I think they are all as bad as one another. If one government introduce a new tax, the opposition will condemn it, but I don't see them rushing to abolish it.
Should the Tories come into power, I doubt things will improve. People will say it will take a long time to rectify the state Labour have got the country into.

So why did you post this bullshit?

Because I was hoping for a balanced view of what each party have done for us

No you weren't…
Like I said earlier, you posted some soundbites from the 'My Little Pony, How to be a Socialist' book, and when you got your head bitten off by a hostile audience changed the question…
And that's the 3rd time you've avoided the question about your age.

And just why should he tell you his age? Are you the age Nazi or something?

He commented that he only remembers a Labour government - OK. I am sure that he would have heard about Thatcher the Snatcher from elsewhere. As to age it could be that he means that he remembers Labour as an adult, even so it is irrelevant. Go somewhere else and bully someone else.

As to the Tories, you may have noticed that they are as popular as toothache in Scotland. Only 1 MP at Westminster

Originally Posted by StickyEnd

Anyway, as a Nation we became a far wealthier one due to Thatcher's policies. Was it all good? No. Was it all bad? No.

Wealthier? Wealthier than what or whom? Isn't it all relative / comparative?

At the end of the day, the OP isn't going to get a balanced view of a political question on ARRSE. It's like a drunken version of the Daily Hate.

Nothing against the Scottish in general but I've had about enough of bl00dy Scottish MPs in Westminster for now. We've had more than our fair share I think.
I'll just mention Galloway in case any Scots wish to get shirty.

Originally Posted by Auld-Yin

Originally Posted by Oil_Slick

Originally Posted by Taffnp

Originally Posted by Oil_Slick

Originally Posted by Taffnp

I have never taken much of an interest in politics, have been out of work under the tories and Labour so no difference there.
All I can remember is a Labour government.

I think they are all as bad as one another. If one government introduce a new tax, the opposition will condemn it, but I don't see them rushing to abolish it.
Should the Tories come into power, I doubt things will improve. People will say it will take a long time to rectify the state Labour have got the country into.

So why did you post this bullshit?

Because I was hoping for a balanced view of what each party have done for us

No you weren't…
Like I said earlier, you posted some soundbites from the 'My Little Pony, How to be a Socialist' book, and when you got your head bitten off by a hostile audience changed the question…
And that's the 3rd time you've avoided the question about your age.

And just why should he tell you his age? Are you the age Nazi or something?

He commented that he only remembers a Labour government - OK. I am sure that he would have heard about Thatcher the Snatcher from elsewhere. As to age it could be that he means that he remembers Labour as an adult, even so it is irrelevant. Go somewhere else and bully someone else.

As to the Tories, you may have noticed that they are as popular as toothache in Scotland. Only 1 MP at Westminster

And what's your interest in digging him out of the huge hole of lies and inconsistancies his posts contain?

You go the hots for him or something?

Originally Posted by Taffnp

As there is a thread running asking what the Labour government has ever done for us, seemed only natural to ask what the Conservatives have done for us.

A few things which spring to mind

Taken away our free school milk

Introduced C1 training during the Falklands conflict

Had 3 million unemployed

Brought about the miners strike

Introduce Council tax

If he 'remebers' all those, and seems to be implying they affected him first hand, he would have 'remembered' that we had more than a few Tory Governments between 1970 and 1997 that he should 'remember'.

It's done sod all.

But that is because the government hasn't been Conservative for an awfully long time.

I mean a conservative government would push ahead with selling any national assets, reducing military spending and trying to massage the unemployment figures whilst taking us through wave after wave of recessio................oh, hold on a minute.



Bugger

[quote="Oil_Slick"

And what's your interest in digging him out of the huge hole of lies and inconsistancies his posts contain?

You go the hots for him or something? [/quote]

None at all - just pissed off at you continually nit picking when someone makes comments you don't like or agree with. Keep on subject.

My personal POV, after a few months we will not know the difference between Tory & Labour governments. After a few years Arrsers will be calling for the heads of the Tories and urging people to vote them out.

IMHO

Originally Posted by PoisonDwarf

At the end of the day, the OP isn't going to get a balanced view of a political question on ARRSE. It's like a drunken version of the Daily Hate.

Whis is still a lot more rational than a blind, ear-muffed version of the Guardian on soma........

Originally Posted by Auld-Yin

None at all - just pissed off at you continually nit picking when someone makes comments you don't like or agree with. Keep on subject.

SO you're saying his posts are not full out outright falsehoods and contradictions?

Either he's too young to 'remember' the things he implied the Tories did to him, he suffered severe amnesia and 'forgot' that there were Tory Governments between 1970 and 1997, or he's posting bull…

Take your pick.

Originally Posted by LateStarter

Magaret Thatcher - Nuff Said. :D

Agreed - "The Iron Lady" was not for turning.

Originally Posted by Jaeger

As someone was was 15yrs old in 1972 I was pretty well placed to see the Before and After picture. The first miners strike saw the country on a 3 day week and regular power cuts that had us recruits sitting round a Hurricane lamp in our Spider bulling our boots. The country was an economic basket case and known internationally as "the Sick man of Europe. Trade union militancy was rampant and there was a real question of "Who Runs Britain", Govt. or the Unions. In fact Ted Heath went to the country on that question and the country, fed up to the back teeth of endless strikes and industrial strife bravely answered "Well not you mate" and he was out. Labour got back in and more importantly Maggie was made leader of the Tories, the long national nightmare was about to end.....well in about 4 years time anyway. The continuing mismanagement of the country under Wilson and then Callaghan was sufficient to convince anyone with a brain that Labour wasn't the answer and the Unions helped a few waverers across the line by helpfully bringing the country to its knees again in 1979 with their "Winter of Discontent" (in the middle of which I read recently, Tony Benn, then a Govt. Minister, circulated a 19 page letter to all ministers laying out the case for Marxism!!!).
It is not a myth that bodies went unburied because the Unions wouldn't allow the graves to be dug, and refuse was piled high in the streets as the bin-men were on strike. The mess was cleared up by the Army of course. This was a time when our so-called industries, inefficient,unprofitable and
all riddled with bloody-minded openly-communist wreckers like Red Robbo at Longbridge, Mick Mcgahey and of course Arthur Scargill, were writing their own suicide notes. In a nutshel we were producing nothing that anyone wanted to buy at a price no-one would pay anyway, these weren't industries, they were an elaborate system of outdoor relief, like the Bog roads in Ireland, and subsidizing them was bleeding the country dry and preventing it's modernisation. Anyway, the Japanese and Koreans made bigger and better ships, faster and at a lower price than us. Ditto for steel, car-making, coal production and just about everything else you could think.
The forces were starved of cash and I recall little meaningfull training apart from that required for Op. Banner, everything else was in short suppply and morale was pretty poor. In most areas of life we were years behind everybody else and the state owned all sorts of thing which it had no business owning. it took f**king ages to get a phone line installed and the only phones available were black or white, like it or lump it. You had no choice as to who supplied your gas, electricity, water etc and you paid what was asked and put-up or shut-up. Honestly it was a differnt world, think East Germany with a Queen and you wouldn't be far off, and we all wore flares, platform shoes and and big F**k-Off collars too!

The Uk wasn't known as the basket case of Europe for nothing in those days. The terrible time in 1976 when Denis Healey had to go cap in hand to the IMF and was told to get his house in order.

At least the Tories never broke up the UK.

What have the tories ever done for us?

Picked up the pieces following a disastrous LabourGovernment.

I just hope it'll be like deja vu all over again, but I have my doubts - there aren't that many pieces left.

Originally Posted by Twizzlelehope

Originally Posted by LateStarter

Magaret Thatcher - Nuff Said. :D

Agreed - "The Iron Lady" was not for turning.

You'll never see that fat cvnt Brown in a tank,


Even if he wanted to, he couldn't squeeze through the hatch.

Originally Posted by Auld-Yin

Originally Posted by Oil_Slick

Originally Posted by Taffnp

Originally Posted by Oil_Slick

Originally Posted by Taffnp

I have never taken much of an interest in politics, have been out of work under the tories and Labour so no difference there.
All I can remember is a Labour government.

I think they are all as bad as one another. If one government introduce a new tax, the opposition will condemn it, but I don't see them rushing to abolish it.
Should the Tories come into power, I doubt things will improve. People will say it will take a long time to rectify the state Labour have got the country into.

So why did you post this bullshit?

Because I was hoping for a balanced view of what each party have done for us

No you weren't…
Like I said earlier, you posted some soundbites from the 'My Little Pony, How to be a Socialist' book, and when you got your head bitten off by a hostile audience changed the question…
And that's the 3rd time you've avoided the question about your age.

And just why should he tell you his age? Are you the age Nazi or something?

He commented that he only remembers a Labour government - OK. I am sure that he would have heard about Thatcher the Snatcher from elsewhere. As to age it could be that he means that he remembers Labour as an adult, even so it is irrelevant. Go somewhere else and bully someone else.

As to the Tories, you may have noticed that they are as popular as toothache in Scotland. Only 1 MP at Westminster

As you are so interested, I am 49 and as I said earlier, never took much interest in politics until lately. When I was younger I had wads of money, but then who didn't, living with their parents and giving them a few bob. The rest was beer money. As you get older, there is more to think about than beer money, bills to pay, so you begin to look at which party offers the best deal, unless of course you are narrow minded and will follow any part blindly.

Originally Posted by Taffnp

Originally Posted by Auld-Yin

Originally Posted by Oil_Slick

Originally Posted by Taffnp

Originally Posted by Oil_Slick

Originally Posted by Taffnp

I have never taken much of an interest in politics, have been out of work under the tories and Labour so no difference there.
All I can remember is a Labour government.

I think they are all as bad as one another. If one government introduce a new tax, the opposition will condemn it, but I don't see them rushing to abolish it.
Should the Tories come into power, I doubt things will improve. People will say it will take a long time to rectify the state Labour have got the country into.

So why did you post this bullshit?

Because I was hoping for a balanced view of what each party have done for us

No you weren't…
Like I said earlier, you posted some soundbites from the 'My Little Pony, How to be a Socialist' book, and when you got your head bitten off by a hostile audience changed the question…
And that's the 3rd time you've avoided the question about your age.

And just why should he tell you his age? Are you the age Nazi or something?

He commented that he only remembers a Labour government - OK. I am sure that he would have heard about Thatcher the Snatcher from elsewhere. As to age it could be that he means that he remembers Labour as an adult, even so it is irrelevant. Go somewhere else and bully someone else.

As to the Tories, you may have noticed that they are as popular as toothache in Scotland. Only 1 MP at Westminster

As you are so interested, I am 49 and as I said earlier, never took much interest in politics until lately. When I was younger I had wads of money, but then who didn't, living with their parents and giving them a few bob. The rest was beer money. As you get older, there is more to think about than beer money, bills to pay, so you begin to look at which party offers the best deal, unless of course you are narrow minded and will follow any part blindly.

Well thanks for that - the political perspective of an unemployed bloke who is still living with his parents when he celebrates his 50th birthday, is always something I look for when forming my opinion......

When I was younger I had wads of money, but then who didn't, living with their parents and giving them a few bob. The rest was beer money. As you get older, there is more to think about than beer money, bills to pay, so you begin to look at which party offers the best deal, unless of course you are narrow minded and will follow any part blindly.[/quote]

Well thanks for that - the political perspective of an unemployed bloke who is still living with his parents when he celebrates his 50th birthday, is always something I look for when forming my opinion......[/quote]


Who said I am unemployed and live with my parents ?