Thread: What have the Conservative Government ever done for us ?

Originally Posted by FR_Trooper

im 16 and have been stuck in college all day

It's past your bedtime then little boy. Off you trot now.

Originally Posted by Oil_Slick

PR would render Liebour extinct as a political party

quite. the only miracle is this hasnt already happened. the tories have been phenomenally poor at making gains, which makes you wonder just what they would be like in government.

can only hope hague keeps his current place and has the PM's ear.

Originally Posted by Oil_Slick

Originally Posted by Toxicseagull

heh but under proportional representation they could get pushed even from the shadow cabinet. thats why neither main party want it and the lib dems do.

check out our current system that gave labour the overwhelming numbers to push through anything...



now imagine the jump if people realised another party could be voted for and actually get somewhere? the two main parties are shitting themselves if that happened.

PR would render Liebour extinct as a political party

Hate to burst your bubble for the ten-thousandth time, but the result of PR would be either a Lab-Lib government with the Cons in perpetual opposition, or a Lib-Con government that was constantly at its own throat, the former being far more likely.

Originally Posted by FR_Trooper

Originally Posted by FiveAlpha

Originally Posted by FR_Trooper

i dont really know what they have done wrong in the past but some of their policies on the army are pretty cool!

So when did you suffer your debilitating head trauma?

what the * is your problem with me you has been walt prik?

every thread i post on you always have some fcuking snooty little comment back! im 16 and have been stuck in college all day so i came on here and started asking daft questions like "where did you lose your virginity" for a laugh to pass the time, your the sad fcuk that comments like a hard nut "in some birds cnut" and all this s*** about having brain damade or something like that! get a fcuking life you sad sad little man!

FR_trooper, would you care to tell us about your first sexual experience and how much you are looking forward to it?

Originally Posted by Fugly

Originally Posted by FR_Trooper

im 16 and have been stuck in college all day

It's past your bedtime then little boy. Off you trot now.

who rattled your cage?

Originally Posted by Command_doh

Appear to hate the EU/single currency/Brussels + Strasbourg/Whole EU zone as much as I do.

They don't. Cameron's been Questioning whether there should be a referendum...
Plus, they're not offering to pull out of the EU until it's actually democratic...

Originally Posted by FR_Trooper

Originally Posted by Fugly

Originally Posted by FR_Trooper

im 16 and have been stuck in college all day

It's past your bedtime then little boy. Off you trot now.

who rattled your cage?

You did, you cretinous buffoon. Away into the night, boy.

Originally Posted by old_n_fat

Originally Posted by FR_Trooper

Originally Posted by FiveAlpha

Originally Posted by FR_Trooper

i dont really know what they have done wrong in the past but some of their policies on the army are pretty cool!

So when did you suffer your debilitating head trauma?

what the * is your problem with me you has been walt prik?

every thread i post on you always have some fcuking snooty little comment back! im 16 and have been stuck in college all day so i came on here and started asking daft questions like "where did you lose your virginity" for a laugh to pass the time, your the sad fcuk that comments like a hard nut "in some birds cnut" and all this s*** about having brain damade or something like that! get a fcuking life you sad sad little man!

FR_trooper, would you care to tell us about your first sexual experience and how much you are looking forward to it?

Are you trying to start a flame war with a 16 year old? Serious question. Same to Five-Alpha and Fugs.

Originally Posted by Underworld_Guitar_Hero

Thatcher did see the problem with the big nationalised industries and in my opinion was bang on to get rid!!!

So that no-one could afford public transport anymore? So the public had no say in how they were run and simply had to bend to conglomerate will? We're supposed to be democratic, not plutocratic...

They were bang on to get rid on nationalisation of public transport if you were a car salesman...

Originally Posted by Kurtle

Originally Posted by Command_doh

Appear to hate the EU/single currency/Brussels + Strasbourg/Whole EU zone as much as I do.

They don't. Cameron's been Questioning whether there should be a referendum...
Plus, they're not offering to pull out of the EU until it's actually democratic...

Who decides if it's democratic.

Here We Go

Reuters and the BBC are reporting that EU leaders have agreed a deal whereby Vaclav Klaus can ratify the Lisbon Treaty!



So what now Mr. Cameron?



http://witteringsfromwitney.blogspot.com/

Originally Posted by PsyWar.Org

Originally Posted by Jaeger

... it took f**king ages to get a phone line installed and the only phones available were black or white, like it or lump it. You had no choice as to who supplied your gas, electricity, water etc and you paid what was asked and put-up or shut-up. Honestly it was a differnt world, think East Germany with a Queen and you wouldn't be far off, and we all wore flares, platform shoes and and big F**k-Off collars too!

If you had the right connections, bottle green phones were also available.

A minor example of how backward Britain was in the 1970's. As a nipper I used to be awe struck by American TV shows like Rockford Files and Quincy because they had push-button telephones! I had never seen a phone without a rotary dial and it would take another 10 or 15 years before you could get them in Britain.

Another personal experiance, on my first day of full-time employment I was working with a typical 1970's throwback. At the end of the day, he physically threatened me for "working too quickly"! Considering this was my first day and I didn't have a clue what I was doing, I couldn't have been working slower. But, of course, it was showing him up, as I didn't take a two hour lunch break, three half hour breaks during the rest of the day and didn't spend half my time chatting to other people.

It would be wrong to write off the seventies as some sort of technological void.

Probably the greatest civil engineering project ever undertaken, the extraction of North Sea oil began in earnest in the 70s. Incidentally, under the previous Tory government, licences to exploit North Sea oil had been given to oil companies without provision for any of the oil to be directed to meet UK needs. Tony Benn’s response was to set up the British National Oil Corporation, a state-owned enterprise, to ensure that the country would derive maximum benefit from the development of new oilfields and to press for a North Sea oil development fund. Benn wanted oil revenues to be ring-fenced for Britain’s industrial regeneration and not used to finance unemployment benefits or short-term tax cuts.

The Apple iPhone and iPod wouldn't be here if it was not for a bunch of 1970s British boffins and their innovative "transputer" technology, sponsored by the Labour government of PM Harold Wilson.

Concorde came into service, largely as a result of the support given to the project by the then Technology Secretary, Tony Benn.

Originally Posted by sebcoe

Originally Posted by DarkNinja

Conservatives put us in Europe in the first place!

Only in the "common Market" not the US of E

Hmmm...

Preamble to the Treaty of Rome, 1957, states:

The founding signatories are:

1. "Determined to lay the foundations of an ever closer union among the peoples of Europe."

and...

2. "Resolved to ensure the economic & social progress of their countries by common action to eliminate the barriers which divide Europe." - including...

3. commitment to creation of a customs union by 1970 - NB shades of a similar union created among the German states mid C19th as an essential precondition of political union under Prussian leadership in 1871.

Don't think there was ever any serious doubt about where the Treaty of Rome was headed; the long term strategic aim was to create a US of Europe.

Heath knew this - as he unequivocally stated to me on more than one occasion.

This was never disguised from the British people, but safe in the knowledge that few would actually read the T of Rome, Heath & Co pressed ahead without drawing the public's attention to it either! The assumption was that everything would be so poptastic; the benefits so overwhelming, that few would care, & when the time came, most would gladly accept the inevitable economic & political union...

Maybe Heath was right...?!

Possibly, one day, historians will judge the Conservatives' greatest achievement of the later C20th to have been taking the UK "into Europe"?!

Certainly, in fairness, it's easy to understand why so many Europhiles find British equivocation/ ambivalence re "The EU Project" puzzling, frustrating, and downright galling.

Originally Posted by Booty

Originally Posted by PsyWar.Org

Originally Posted by Jaeger

... it took f**king ages to get a phone line installed and the only phones available were black or white, like it or lump it. You had no choice as to who supplied your gas, electricity, water etc and you paid what was asked and put-up or shut-up. Honestly it was a differnt world, think East Germany with a Queen and you wouldn't be far off, and we all wore flares, platform shoes and and big F**k-Off collars too!

If you had the right connections, bottle green phones were also available.

A minor example of how backward Britain was in the 1970's. As a nipper I used to be awe struck by American TV shows like Rockford Files and Quincy because they had push-button telephones! I had never seen a phone without a rotary dial and it would take another 10 or 15 years before you could get them in Britain.

Another personal experiance, on my first day of full-time employment I was working with a typical 1970's throwback. At the end of the day, he physically threatened me for "working too quickly"! Considering this was my first day and I didn't have a clue what I was doing, I couldn't have been working slower. But, of course, it was showing him up, as I didn't take a two hour lunch break, three half hour breaks during the rest of the day and didn't spend half my time chatting to other people.

It would be wrong to write off the seventies as some sort of technological void.

Probably the greatest civil engineering project ever undertaken, the extraction of North Sea oil began in earnest in the 70s. Incidentally, under the previous Tory government, licences to exploit North Sea oil had been given to oil companies without provision for any of the oil to be directed to meet UK needs. Tony Benn’s response was to set up the British National Oil Corporation, a state-owned enterprise, to ensure that the country would derive maximum benefit from the development of new oilfields and to press for a North Sea oil development fund. Benn wanted oil revenues to be ring-fenced for Britain’s industrial regeneration and not used to finance unemployment benefits or short-term tax cuts.

The Apple iPhone and iPod wouldn't be here if it was not for a bunch of 1970s British boffins and their innovative "transputer" technology, sponsored by the Labour government of PM Harold Wilson.

Concorde came into service, largely as a result of the support given to the project by the then Technology Secretary, Tony Benn.

I'm certainly not righting off British innovation in the 1970's or at any other time. The problem is we were never good at exploiting that technology. The GPO boffins were world leaders. It was a GPO techie that designed and built, arguably, the world's first programmable computer (depending on how you define what a computer is). However, those GPO innovations did not filter down to their customers. In the 1970’s we had an out dated Telco and where were the British IBMs and Microsoft? The closest we came to it was Sinclair, a tiny PC using US-developed technology.

Why aren't the iPhones and iPods being designed and manufactured in Britain today?

The same with other technology, we developed television, the magnetron, silver halide photography but where are the great British-built TV brands, or microwave ovens or, in the past, photographic film manufacturers?

It’s innovation that kept this country’s head above water, especially in the 1940’s and 1970’s but what about in 2010?

Originally Posted by Kurtle

Originally Posted by Underworld_Guitar_Hero

Thatcher did see the problem with the big nationalised industries and in my opinion was bang on to get rid!!!

So that no-one could afford public transport anymore? So the public had no say in how they were run and simply had to bend to conglomerate will? We're supposed to be democratic, not plutocratic...

They were bang on to get rid on nationalisation of public transport if you were a car salesman...

Come to Germany. Here, we have to pay when we take a bycicle or dog on any public transport. This can actually double your fare and is rigidly enforced! Funnily enough (I've stated this elsewhere), train companies in England also have this in their Bye Laws, but choose not to enforce it.

Originally Posted by PsyWar.Org

Originally Posted by Booty

Originally Posted by PsyWar.Org

Originally Posted by Jaeger

... it took f**king ages to get a phone line installed and the only phones available were black or white, like it or lump it. You had no choice as to who supplied your gas, electricity, water etc and you paid what was asked and put-up or shut-up. Honestly it was a differnt world, think East Germany with a Queen and you wouldn't be far off, and we all wore flares, platform shoes and and big F**k-Off collars too!

If you had the right connections, bottle green phones were also available.

A minor example of how backward Britain was in the 1970's. As a nipper I used to be awe struck by American TV shows like Rockford Files and Quincy because they had push-button telephones! I had never seen a phone without a rotary dial and it would take another 10 or 15 years before you could get them in Britain.

Another personal experiance, on my first day of full-time employment I was working with a typical 1970's throwback. At the end of the day, he physically threatened me for "working too quickly"! Considering this was my first day and I didn't have a clue what I was doing, I couldn't have been working slower. But, of course, it was showing him up, as I didn't take a two hour lunch break, three half hour breaks during the rest of the day and didn't spend half my time chatting to other people.

It would be wrong to write off the seventies as some sort of technological void.

Probably the greatest civil engineering project ever undertaken, the extraction of North Sea oil began in earnest in the 70s. Incidentally, under the previous Tory government, licences to exploit North Sea oil had been given to oil companies without provision for any of the oil to be directed to meet UK needs. Tony Benn’s response was to set up the British National Oil Corporation, a state-owned enterprise, to ensure that the country would derive maximum benefit from the development of new oilfields and to press for a North Sea oil development fund. Benn wanted oil revenues to be ring-fenced for Britain’s industrial regeneration and not used to finance unemployment benefits or short-term tax cuts.

The Apple iPhone and iPod wouldn't be here if it was not for a bunch of 1970s British boffins and their innovative "transputer" technology, sponsored by the Labour government of PM Harold Wilson.

Concorde came into service, largely as a result of the support given to the project by the then Technology Secretary, Tony Benn.

I'm certainly not righting off British innovation in the 1970's or at any other time. The problem is we were never good at exploiting that technology. The GPO boffins were world leaders. It was a GPO techie that designed and built, arguably, the world's first programmable computer (depending on how you define what a computer is). However, those GPO innovations did not filter down to their customers. In the 1970’s we had an out dated Telco and where were the British IBMs and Microsoft? The closest we came to it was Sinclair, a tiny PC using US-developed technology.

Why aren't the iPhones and iPods being designed and manufactured in Britain today?

The same with other technology, we developed television, the magnetron, silver halide photography but where are the great British-built TV brands, or microwave ovens or, in the past, photographic film manufacturers?

It’s innovation that kept this country’s head above water, especially in the 1940’s and 1970’s but what about in 2010?

RThere are plenty of hi tech UK companies going about their business...read up on ARM Holdings. They are taking on Intel in certain sectors and winning.