Thread: A Question of Question Time

I didn't hear the programme but the BBC is 'full of it' on the wireless this morning. From the snippets emerging it appears to have been a 'get the BNP' show.

The appallingly awful Hain has been 'smarming' all over the air-waves with his self-righteous indignation - are there no limits to the depths of unpopularity this ghastly man will plumb? If this piece of canine excrement is angered by the programme it must have been good and worth listening to.

I suspect that the poster 'S_McL' has summed the farce up more than adequately in his post.

'Clown' Brown and his master - Mr. Mandelson - must be furious that their Propaganda Department gave air time to a man whose Party polled 943,000 votes in the Euroswine Elections in June.

It would be so good if the BNP polled more votes than the CWU - sorry - the Labour Party in the next General Election.

Pa Cyclops McRuin sold all Neues Arbeit 'Moral Compasses' years ago..... Mr Straw, if he wants another one, will have to go down to 'Cash Converters' to see if he can find one suitable... Maybe Mr B'Liars 'Moral Compass' has turned up there.....

However, it will be like one of the 'Genuine Expensive' watches that 'Johny Foreigner' sells you as you trip through the Suez Canal.... It ain't got no moving parts inside it..... Just like Neues Arbeit...... all fu' o shoi'te....

...( all alleged of course.....) :P :P

20 minutes.
Got bored.
"Click"
Bed.

As I have said in a 'sister thread', if the programme annoyed the vile, sanctimonious piece of canine excrement Hain, then it must have been a good show and worth hearing.

Clearly, this programme offended the repellent Hain's sensibility towards the concept of FREEDOM OF THOUGHT and SPEECH which has not quite been outlawed in this sad and badly governed country.

I don't really know much about Mr. Griffin or the BNP but I do know that Hain represents in Spades the best reason imaginable to vote against the duplicitous and deceitful Labour Party.

Originally Posted by jagman

That because in order for us to be the compliant muli-cultural society the state demands we are to be then our culture and values need to be modified.
This is why being British is racist but being Asian British or African British or Martian British is something to be proud of. Just being plain old fashioned British is frowned upon.

I class myself as British, English by birth but Irish by descent.

I feel the main problem is that 'English' or 'British' are seen as exclusive by many, promulgated by the likes of Straw.

When I say English or British I mean anyone, no matter what their colour or religion who was either born here of who holds citizenship. If anyone who does not fulfil that criteria; commits a crime or wants to preach hatred and unrest or even just sponge off the state then I feel they should go and live elsewhere. If you live here and are a citizen you have the right to criticise if you aren't a citizen then you have the right to leave so kindly do so.

Originally Posted by Grownup_Rafbrat

I actually thought she did quite well, and her points about the Romans leaving their citizens to 'hook up' with the local 'indigenous populace' was excellent. Britain is already a mongrel nation, and the messages about that are overshadowing people's genuine concerns about uncontrolled immigration and lack of tracking of asylum seekers and illegals once they are here.

As usual, I found myself agreeing with bits of what each of them said. And disagreeing with bits of what each of them said.

I do think it was the right thing to get Griffin on the programme, if only to shoot down his 'made up facts'. All the panellists had done their research, and were able to use logic and reason to do just that. Those who deny him a platform are denying the rest of us the ability to use debate to diminish his power.

Griffin did int out that it was the rate of change in the UK demograph that was the biggest issue.
He was right too.

As for agreeing with the various panelists, nothing Jack Straw had to say impressed me at all. The Wasi(?) woman spoke a lot of sense and that Huhne idiot might as well have stayed at home for all he contributed.
Surprisingly, and quite shockingly Griffin had reasonable points on a lot more than I exected him too.
Wether I believe him or not is a different matter (but then he is a politician and I am cynical enough not to believe any one of them these days)
If he was being honest about his beliefs and policies he is going to severely dent a lot of marginal Labour MP's in some contituencies come the election, I wonder just how worried Jack Straw is up there in Blackburn...

Griffin did in no way, win last nights QT but he didn't lose it either and thats all he had to do.

Originally Posted by amazing__lobster

Originally Posted by All_I_Want

Originally Posted by KGB_resident

Originally Posted by All_I_Want

Originally Posted by KGB_resident

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But the UK needs workforce. What would we do?
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Keep away from areas you have no understanding of.

The situation with immigration in Russia has much in common with British one.

There is a lot of low paid 'dirty' jobs that only immigrans or foreign workers agree to do.

So what is a solution: immigranst or temporal foreign workers? I think that wokers.

And what do you think?

I spoke about the Chinese. Simply it is the most inexpensive workforce. They could be from India or other places but without any citizenship.

It is a serious problem. Such a lightweight comments as yours can't contribute to the discussion.

As I say keep away from areas....

We have dirty jobs and low paid jobs, that the benefit system pay people to do nothing is at the heart of why these jobs are not filled. We do not need immigrants, we need a shake up of our systems.

The problem is though, even in countries without a state benefit system you will find people who do not want to work.

The whole "systems", not just the benefit ones......sentencing and prisons also need a shake up, and a few other "systems".

Originally Posted by Markintime

Originally Posted by jagman

That because in order for us to be the compliant muli-cultural society the state demands we are to be then our culture and values need to be modified.
This is why being British is racist but being Asian British or African British or Martian British is something to be proud of. Just being plain old fashioned British is frowned upon.

I class myself as British, English by birth but Irish by descent.

I feel the main problem is that 'English' or 'British' are seen as exclusive by many, promulgated by the likes of Straw.

When I say English or British I mean anyone, no matter what their colour or religion who was either born here of who holds citizenship. If anyone who does not fulfil that criteria; commits a crime or wants to preach hatred and unrest or even just sponge off the state then I feel they should go and live elsewhere. If you live here and are a citizen you have the right to criticise if you aren't a citizen then you have the right to leave so kindly do so.

You aren't gonna like this MiT but thats not a million Miles away from what Griffin said last night.....

Originally Posted by spiffy

Griffin did in no way, win last nights QT but he didn't lose it either and thats all he had to do.

Not losing was a huge victory for the BNP last night.
Yet again it is the failure of the political establishment that is responsible.

Originally Posted by Steven_McLaughlin

The funniest bit on Question Time was hearing these corrupt politicians talk about their ‘moral compasses’ (they who voted for the Iraq War and fiddled their expenses claims) without a trace of irony.

I think Jack Straws moral compass works along the same lines as Jack Sparrows!!!!!!

Originally Posted by jagman

You aren't gonna like this MiT but thats not a million Miles away from what Griffin said last night.....

I mean it.

Originally Posted by Markintime

Sayeeda Warsi was magnificent and the only panellist who had a clue what the real issue was last night. She was the only one who put up any sort of a credible argument and who strove to tackle the issues. Her remark about Asylum Seekers: She is a lawyer and a politician she cannot talk about bogus asylum seekers, asylum seeker is a legal term for someone seeking asylum, is she had made it plain that what was referred to as bogus asylum seekers were in fact failed asylum seekers she would have done far better. She had obviously come prepared to debate the issues - good for her.

Broadly agree. However, Dimbleby let her off the hook.

I wanted to hear her explain her opposition to civil partnerships, as it happens its probably best she didn't get too as up until that point she seemed to be the bastion of common sense on the show and it looked like she was about to score a massive own-goal by getting all homo-phobic.

Originally Posted by Markintime

Originally Posted by jagman

You aren't gonna like this MiT but thats not a million Miles away from what Griffin said last night.....

I mean it.

:D and I agree
Doesn't change the fact that it is the policy presented by Griffin last night though does it?
As for how honest he was when he said it, he's a politician so the assumption is that its just words without meaning. How is that any different to any of the policies presented by any politician of any flavour?

I never saw the program but WTF was Nick Griffen appearing on a Question of Sport. Many of Britains athletes are black or come from wales etc I don't think that the BNP should be allowed to appear on national sports quizzes. I don't recall the Tories being given a seat on this programme. WTF is happening to the BBC that they feel the need to introduce dubious politicians to this level of light entertainment? Whats next? Neo-Nazis taking part in it's a knock-out?