Thread: impose sharia law on Britain

Originally Posted by classic

Originally Posted by RangeStew

Remember when the muslims were allowed by this toss Government to implement minor sharia law in the UK and tossers like Sven/Whet said thats all the muslims want don't be anti about it, well like all things muslim when you give these people an inch they take a mile.....

A RADICAL Muslim group sparked outrage last night as it launched a massive campaign to impose sharia law on Britain.

The fanatical group Islam4UK has Â*announced plans to hold a potentially Â*incendiary rally in London later this month.

And it is calling for a complete upheaval of the British legal system, its officials and Â*legislation.


These extremist scum need putting down now.

What these people want and what the people in the u.k. think is totally different .
My family did not fight for king/queen and country for people like these to come and take the u.k. over and impose their views on people who are happy living in this country who are from all different cultures and reglions .

If these gentleman do not like the way we live in this country ,Then please go and find another country to accomdate their needs .
As for British ladies wearing Burhka ,In my oppinion i would rather still wear my mini skirts . :D

Chubb, if shariah law meant you'd be crushed to death under a pile of computers, I'd be all for it.

Originally Posted by Rumpelstiltskin

MCB deplores Islam4UK proposed March PDF Print E-mail

London, Oct 16 (APP): The UK’s largest Muslim umbrella body - The Muslim Council of Britain - has deplored the proposed march by Islam4UK, a front organisation of extremist fringe group al-Muhajiroun, as a deliberate action to provoke hatred and division in the society.The MCB in a statement said it risks sparking violence and also masking the real threat from rising Islam phobia and far right fascists like the English Defence League and British National Party.

It expressed dismay at the amount of coverage given to the fringe group’s call by the ‘Daily Express’ which has wrongly characterised their demands as those of Muslims generally. The overwhelming majority of British Muslims want nothing to do with such extremists, the statement added.

“It is very well known that these extremist groups are a handful of people and do not represent the views of the mainstream Muslim public. Despite that, certain sections of the media choose to give them disproportionate attention, giving them oxygen of publicity and misrepresent their views as those of Muslims...

The MCB respects the value of free speech in Britain and echoes the sentiments of many of its affiliates to ignore such provocations. The MCB calls on the authorities to ensure that if the Islam4UK Rally, and for that matter any group, provokes a public disorder and an incitement of hatred, then the perpetrators should be prosecuted with due process.

http://www.app.com.pk/en_/index.php?...87929&Itemid=2

My my, how times have changed...

http://artsweb.bham.ac.uk/bmms/1996/...0for%20Revival

Originally Posted by Bert_Preast

My my, how times have changed...

http://artsweb.bham.ac.uk/bmms/1996/...0for%20Revival

Indeed, they kicked out that tw@ Sacranie a while back...

His replacement's from the Bangladeshi version of Crab Air, if that's an improvement...

not much, no...

http://efrafandays.wordpress.com/200...eneral-of-mcb/

Still sometimes he does talk sense. From another MCB press release today:

"Dr Muhammad Abdul Bari, MCB Secretary General said: "At a time of heightened tension, with the unprecedented rise of the far right, we must all pull together and focus on points of unity and cohesion. Our unhealthy obsession with divisive figures only bolsters their objective to sow discord on the streets of Britain""

Yes matey, YOUR unhealthy obsession with divisive figures certainly does.

Originally Posted by Bert_Preast

not much, no...

http://efrafandays.wordpress.com/200...eneral-of-mcb/

Any particular bit? I don't find anything particularly objectionable there- much less threatening- and I'm a wearer of HMTQ's natty green suits (Tuesday evenings and weekends only, subject to Bob Ainsworth's whims.)

I just think accusing us of becoming nazis then suing the BBC for 45 large because he didn't like what another panellist said is perhaps a tad stiff? Especially when he's still failing to do a damn thing about his own deputy signing a declaration threatening British forces. Said deputy is also his mate at that hotbed of moderation, the East London Mosque. Where Bari was the vice-chair by the way. Back when he was deputy to Sacranie.

Still, good job they've all now changed their minds about Choudary's lads. Or at least they did when their funding got diverted to Quilliam - who they all loathe.

Originally Posted by Bert_Preast

Especially when he's still failing to do a damn thing about his own deputy signing a declaration threatening British forces. Said deputy is also his mate at that hotbed of moderation, the East London Mosque. Where Bari was the vice-chair by the way. Back when he was deputy to Sacranie.

And please show me where it does that:

http://www.puic.org/english/index.ph...sk=view&id=186

ISTANBUL DECLARATION

ADOPTED BY THE
OPEN ENDED EXTRAORDINARY MEETING OF THE PUIC EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE AT THE LEVEL OF SPEAKERS OF ON " A UNIFIED POSITION OF OIC MEMBER PARLIAMENTS IN SUPPORT OF PALESTINE AGAINST AGGRESSION AND WAR CRIMES COMMITTED BY ISRAEL IN GAZA STRIP�

ISTANBUL – REPUBLIC OF TURKEY

17 MUHARRAM 1430H
(14 JANUARY 2009)




The Open-ended Extraordinary Meeting of the PUIC Executive Committee at the level of Speakers of Parliaments held on 14 January 2009, corresponding to 17 Muharram 1430H in Istanbul, Republic of Turkey, taking into consideration the world wide popular outcries caused by Israel's aggression and violation of the human rights in the Gaza Strip;

Recalling the principles and objectives enshrined in the Charters of the Organization of the Islamic Conference and also Parliamentary Union of OIC Member States and pursuant to the Organization’s resolutions on the Cause of Palestine and the city of Al Quds;

Referring to and taking into account the Final Communiqué of the Expanded Extraordinary Meeting of the Executive Committee of the OIC at the Level of Foreign Ministers on 3 January 2009 in Jeddah;

Having noted the United Nations Security Council Resolution 1860 of 8 January 2009, which Israel ought to implement immediately, as well as the resolution adopted by the Human Rights Council on 12 January, 2009,

Highly praising the resilience and determination of the Palestinian people in the face of Israeli aggression, and affirming support for their just struggle to regain their inalienable rights, including the right to return and self-determination and the establishment of an independent State of Palestine, with Al Quds as its capital,

Reaffirming that the occupied Palestinian territories, encompassing Gaza Strip and the West Bank including the city of Al Quds, constitute a single geographical unit,

Having listened to the speeches and interventions of the Honorable Speakers and Heads of Delegation and the PUIC Secretary General;


1. Strongly condemns the Israeli aggressions and war crimes against the unarmed Palestinian people in Gaza Strip, and the use of all lethally, including internationally banned, weapons, killing and injuring of thousands of peoples and caused colossal destruction of homes, civilian facilities, infrastructure and places of worship as a blatant violation of the various international laws, resolutions, conventions and agreements. It holds responsible those States which provide Israel with these weapons.


2. Demands immediate cessation of Israeli aggression on Gaza Strip and the establishment of cease fire and the total withdrawal of Israeli forces from the Strip, and calls for the lifting of the blockade, unconditionally and permanently, including the opening of crosses as well as sea and air corridors in order to facilitate the delivery of necessary assistance. It also holds Israel responsible for the rehabilitation and the reconstruction of Gaza Strip.

3. Exhorts all parliaments of the world to take the necessary steps to alleviate the suffering of the Palestinian people and urges their respective governments to exert pressure on Israel to put an end to its aggression in Palestine. Also calls on the national parliaments of the Member States which have established parliamentary friendship committees with the Israeli Knesset to dissolve these committees.

4. Emphasizes that the safety and protection of the civilian population is imperative and of the highest priority, expresses its determination to undertake all the necessary steps to assist the Palestinian people, specially in Gaza Strip, for the flow of unimpeded assistance, and in this context mandates the PUIC Secretary General to intensify the efforts with organizations of the civil society in order to collect financial contributions from them as well as from Member Parliaments to provide urgent assistance to the people in Gaza Strip, highlights the role played by the States and regional and international organizations, and calls on them to extend more assistance in order to alleviate the suffering of the Palestinian people who are the rightful owners of the land.

5. Requests the international community and all relevant organizations and institutions, specially United Nations which their creditability on the stake addressing the Israeli aggression, to constitute an International Fact-finding Mission to investigate Israel’s unprecedented violations of human rights and the International Humanitarian Laws and bring the culprits as war criminals before the International Court.

6. Affirms its categorical rejection of any solutions or settlements that lead to the protection of Israel through prejudicing the sovereignty, interests or security of any State in the region, including the conspiracy of the alternative homeland and considers this a flagrant violation of the principles of the sovereignty and independence of the region and States of the entire Islamic World.

7. Calls loudly for considering the Israeli aggression on Gaza Strip as a strong justification for applying the principles of international legality and its resolutions relevant to the Palestinian cause and the entire Arab Israeli conflict.


8. Appeals to the Palestinian factions to unify their ranks and achieve national consensus immediately to ensure national Palestinian Unity.


9. Warns Israel from resorting again to the use of force or threaten to use force in the Northern Front bordering Lebanon and Syria especially that Israel has carried out many war maneuvers in preparation for a possible aggression. Israel has deployed thousands of soldiers and innumerable tanks and armored cars on the southern borders of Lebanon. Furthermore Israeli warplanes constantly violate the Lebanese airspace. Israel has even intensified these violations simultaneously with the war on Gaza Strip.


10. Requests the national parliaments of the OIC Member States to urge their respective governments to coordinate their efforts in order to strengthen the means and abilities of the Palestinian people to continue their just struggle to regain their inalienable national rights.


11. Calls on the international communities to exercise pressure on Israel as the force of occupation to immediately release all the Palestinian parliamentarians in particular the speaker of the Palestinian Legislative Council Dr. Aziz Al Duwaik, as well as other detained Palestinian deputies.


12. Records with satisfaction the popular uprisings in all parts of the world to denounce the savage Israeli aggression, support the heroic resistance in dignified Gaza, and requests to sensitize world humanitarian conscience.


13. Forcefully hails the steadfastness of the valiant people in Gaza Strip for their confrontation of the destructive machine and their heroism, thus proving that the Ummah is able to face the challenge.


14. Decides to assign an executive group in coordination with the PUIC Secretary General to contact influential international stakeholders including the United Nations with a view to ending Israel’s aggression on Gaza Strip and resolving the attendant humanitarian crisis.

15. Mandates the Secretary General to submit a report on implementation of this Declaration to Member Parliaments every three months from the date of its adoption.

16. The PUIC expresses its thanks and appreciation to the Republic of Turkey for hosting this Extraordinary Meeting and highly praises the stand of this great, kind and hospitable country, people parliament and government in supporting the steadfast Palestinian people.

The version you quote there seems to differ on points 7 & 8 to the one Daud signed:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2...l-britain-gaza

"Abdullah, speaking for the first time about the row, told the Guardian he would not be standing down.

He said of his views: "If British troops were to engage in a breach of international law, it is up to the people of the territory to decide what to do. But as I understand it, under international law, it is their right to resist."

He defended signing the statement, saying: "It made no specific mention of attacks on British troops. The statement does say if foreign troops enter Gaza's territorial waters, it is the duty of Muslims to resist, as it would be seen as assisting the siege.""

The foreign troops bit was in point 8.

Looks like someone has been 'offed' from his own thread. I was about to post "That should do it" re the Palestinian insult, but was well beaten to it. Thanks MODs. :D

Originally Posted by Monty417

Looks like someone has been 'offed' from his own thread. I was about to post "That should do it" re the Palestinian insult, but was well beaten to it. Thanks MODs. :D

I deleted it myself as I couldn't be arsed but ........

deleted again as I really really can't be arsed.

Originally Posted by RangeStew

Originally Posted by Monty417

Looks like someone has been 'offed' from his own thread. I was about to post "That should do it" re the Palestinian insult, but was well beaten to it. Thanks MODs. :D

I deleted it myself as I couldn't be arsed but ........

The palestinians are the cancer of the Middle East and should be
removed.

As should people with extreme views and attitudes, including you. You demean yourself by stooping to comments like that and cancel out any reasoning contributions that you may have added or made.

Originally Posted by Bert_Preast

*thinking on it the Wales and Scotland thing seems fair enough.

Who in their right mind would want to conduct "slaving raids" (as you put it) to Wales or Scotland? I believe you have been taken in by those Rhod Gilbert advertisements. Bear in mind it would be far more conducive to material gain if one were to declare the lands outside of greater Londinium "lands of war". Colchester is surely overdue for another round of pillage and mayhem? The only two such occasions of which I am aware occurred during the Roman occupation of Britiain (briefly repulsed by the uprising led by non-L'Oréal red-haired Boudicca); the second when fair General Sir Thomas Fairfax laid waste to the place.

Humanity seemed to get along fine before organised religions. It also seemed to get along fine with a multitude of different religions. I'd even go so far as to say that atheists seem to get along fine, and the number of atheist mass murderers doing it 'because they can' is pretty small - certainly smaller than those called on by god to kill. So the basic rules of religions seem to have little bearing on the basic morality of humanity, all the religions do is start with that then add a load of absolutely stupid sh1t which has nothing whatever to do with morality.

I don't think any one is under the allusion that much destruction and wickedness has been wrought under the name of religion. However, you seem to imply that war, pestilence and all other depraved things that man has inflicted upon itself since its creation all stems from organised religion? As long as greed, intolerance of others and ignorance exists then one is guaranteed war and strife will be eternal. The Nazis seeked world domination (by thrusting forth an ideology). The Romans conquered much of the world who initially followed some form of paganism? I'm sure there are other examples some one far more erudite than myself would be able to illustrate this point of mine. You can take the most innocuous and precious of things, then you can warp and corrupt it to your heart's content. I am in no way absolving religion for some of the ruinous and callous acts it has reigned down upon us mere mortals. However, one must bear in mind the individuals who were responsible for inciting and perpetrating the babaric acts that are rife in our history. If I were to be more of a Devil's advocate. I might say that it would be like blaming a company for all its wrongdoings when it in fact the agents of the company (more precisesly its executive officers) who are in charge and thus truly responsible.

Let me throw this into the mixing pot:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1c11pjL5dLw

I probably warrants a thread of its own....

Originally Posted by Technocratic_Turbine

Originally Posted by Bert_Preast

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Humanity seemed to get along fine before organised religions. It also seemed to get along fine with a multitude of different religions. I'd even go so far as to say that atheists seem to get along fine, and the number of atheist mass murderers doing it 'because they can' is pretty small - certainly smaller than those called on by god to kill. So the basic rules of religions seem to have little bearing on the basic morality of humanity, all the religions do is start with that then add a load of absolutely stupid sh1t which has nothing whatever to do with morality.

I don't think any one is under the allusion that much destruction and wickedness has been wrought under the name of religion. However, you seem to imply that war, pestilence and all other depraved things that man has inflicted upon itself since its creation all stems from organised religion? As long as greed, intolerance of others and ignorance exists then one is guaranteed war and strife will be eternal. The Nazis seeked world domination (by thrusting forth an ideology). The Romans conquered much of the world who initially followed some form of paganism? I'm sure there are other examples some one far more erudite than myself would be able to illustrate this point of mine. You can take the most innocuous and precious of things, then you can warp and corrupt it to your heart's content. I am in no way absolving religion for some of the ruinous and callous acts it has reigned down upon us mere mortals. However, one must bear in mind the individuals who were responsible for inciting and perpetrating the babaric acts that are rife in our history. If I were to be more of a Devil's advocate. I might say that it would be like blaming a company for all its wrongdoings when it in fact the agents of the company (more precisesly its executive officers) who are in charge and thus truly responsible.

My dear chap, do be assured that I know exactly where you're coming from here. Much, much human misery has indeed been wrought as you say by greed, intolerance and ignorance. However, in mitigation might I state that greed, intolerance and ignorance are all things I understand only too well, as does any pointless talking monkey. These are things within our nature and thus qualities to be admired. Where would we find ourselves without greed? Without intolerance, how should we defeat the intolerant? Would you not agree that ignorance is bliss? If not, you're surely well aware that little knowledge is dangerous?

But bowing to someone professing supernatural connections, that's not in my nature. And it would frankly be most unfair on the executive officers of my company (D Company) to heap blame upon them for the grevious wrongdoings of the Riflemen. After all, they were nearly as wankered as we were at the time.