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**beemer007** · 13-10-2009, 18:50

Originally Posted by lsquared

BRIBERY for the Micks, and THREATS for the Czechs.

Makes you so proud to a Eurine!

When will a British politician stand up to the European National Socialist Soviet Union? What are they afraid of?

Cameron for goodness sake, do a Churchill and save the country! You would waltz a general election if you said we will challenge the Euroswine and reclaim our sovereignty and make our own laws!!

If 'they' say, "well you will starve" - tell them to stuff that 'wishful thinking' up their corrupt arrses, as we have stood alone before, together with our Commonwealth brethren and Nepal, whilst Euroswine Land was conquered by the identical type of filth subjugating it today by stealth and default.

I would'nt be surprised in the slightest that the EU/Brussels will pull every dirty trick in the book to get the Czech's to sign before the Oct 29th deadline, after all the EU is extremely powerful right??

IMO Cameron has'nt got the balls to stand up to the EU & retain our sovereignty but miracles do & can happen

**Semper_Flexibilis** · 13-10-2009, 18:52

Originally Posted by lsquared

BRIBERY for the Micks, and THREATS for the Czechs..

Yes, it's fascinating to watch……

The Eurphiles claim the future is so obviously bright as part of the EU superstate, it's obvious anyone would want to join.

Problem is, they don't seem to believe that themselves and have to result to chicannery and outright political thuggery to get people to say 'Yes'.

**alib** · 13-10-2009, 19:02

Originally Posted by jboldie

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Sorry,everyone but you ain't seen nothin' yet!Just wait till the globalists have finished establishing their 'dry run'/test bed for Global Government(i.e.the EU)

Didn't even make it onto The Rapture Meter, Interpol to Help UN in Peacekeeping Missions is apparently more apocalyptic.

Deeply disappointing. Here's me voting for Lisbon like all the other Irish and thinking I'm now as rapture ready as a Ted Haggard on Meth. Bloody useless IV Reich can't even do its bit to get the man coming around.

Here's the relevant bit of scripture.

Daniel 7:23-28 (King James Version)

23. Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.

24. And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.

25. And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

26. But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end.

27. And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.

28. Hitherto is the end of the matter. As for me Daniel, my cogitations much troubled me, and my countenance changed in me: but I kept the matter in my heart.

Actually I have a bad feeling about this. World gubmint, that's obviously already happened. Yerman Greenspan life's work innit? Antichrist is obviously Barry O. Overflowing Scourge, current Wall St death spiral. Time Of Peace and Safety...ain't happening any time soon. Oh bugger, think I'll turn Buddhist.

**BrunoNoMedals** · 13-10-2009, 19:04

The thing that surprises me the most in this whole saga is just how transparent the EU politicians are. Some of the quotes I've seen attributed to them simply beggar belief.

Originally Posted by Bulgarian geezer

It must not be allowed, it must not be tolerated. President Sarkozy is of the same opinion.

Erm, surely a sovereign nation is allowed to do whatever the fu]ck it wants when it comes to making up its own mind? They're breaking no international laws, they're simply pondering a decision. It's entirely within the right.

I thought politicians were supposed to be devious and underhand. These lot are barely a step away from continental martial law and goose-stepping through the bleeding Channel Tunnel.

**Alsacien** · 13-10-2009, 19:31

Originally Posted by InVinoVeritas

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/6318586/Lisbon-Treaty-Czechs-could-lose-European-Commissioner-if-president-fails-to-sign.html

Democracy EU style.

Would you say the same thing if Brown went against a decision already taken in the UK parliment?

I think not.

Don't bother responding, I'll leave you all to your fact free discussion now.....

**Perevodchik** · 13-10-2009, 19:41

I reckon Pres Klaus should get himself down Kwik Fit for a brake test...

Sorry me old Franco-German dwelling mucker, I'm afraid you're missing the point. Nobody actually believes that the EU is either democratic or designed for the benefit if its citizens.

**InVinoVeritas** · 13-10-2009, 19:44

Originally Posted by Alsacien

Originally Posted by InVinoVeritas

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/6318586/Lisbon-Treaty-Czechs-could-lose-European-Commissioner-if-president-fails-to-sign.html

Democracy EU style.

Would you say the same thing if Brown went against a decision already taken in the UK parliment?

I think not.

Don't bother responding, I'll leave you all to your fact free discussion now.....

The UK government was elected on a LIE... that we would have a referendum on the EU constitution (Which Lisbon IS).

The treaty has been foisted onto us on false pretences by a corrupt liar with mental health issues.

A new government hasd no obligation to uphold a treaty signed by a crimnal sociopath.

He is clearly not of sound mind and therefore the treaty is not legally binding.

Cameron just needs to have the bed wetter sectioned and then tear it up. Job done.

**Semper_Flexibilis** · 13-10-2009, 19:46

Originally Posted by Alsacien

Originally Posted by InVinoVeritas

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/6318586/Lisbon-Treaty-Czechs-could-lose-European-Commissioner-if-president-fails-to-sign.html

Democracy EU style.

Would you say the same thing if Brown went against a decision already taken in the UK parliment?

I think not.

Don't bother responding, I'll leave you all to your fact free discussion now.....

Brown may act like the President of the UK, but he's not… he's a PM.

Presidents exist to pull up out of control PM's.

**InVinoVeritas** · 13-10-2009, 19:53

Originally Posted by Oil_Slick

Originally Posted by Alsacien

Originally Posted by InVinoVeritas

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/6318586/Lisbon-Treaty-Czechs-could-lose-European-Commissioner-if-president-fails-to-sign.html

Democracy EU style.

Would you say the same thing if Brown went against a decision already taken in the UK parliment?

I think not.

Don't bother responding, I'll leave you all to your fact free discussion now.....

Brown may act like the President of the UK, but he's not… he's a PM.

Presidents exist to pull up out of control PM's.

Just like the noble President Klaus is doing.

I salute you Sah!!