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    Why oh why do the Labour Party always embroil themselves in these petty little snipes and witch hunts.
    He's gone, he's no longer the CGS and you made sure he was not CDS so why not just revel in that? You could even cite his 'political' agenda as the reason for not giving him the top job but oh no, that's not good enough for petty, vindictive Labour they have to try to destroy, have they any idea how distasteful this is to the general populace? Do they care?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrPVRd
    He is clearly undertaking "resettlement activity"

    Although I fully support General Dannatt's move to advise the Tories, and a possible peerage and future government role, I understand a little of the disquiet - the element that isn't being whipped up by Labour and some of the more entrenched members of the political classes, that is.

    However, these are unprecedented times. The nation is at war, the government is running the Armed Forces into the ground, there is the danger of losing the campaign in Afghanistan.

    We should be 100% behind General Dannatt. If he succeeds in raising the profile of the debate and driving forward a new approach, then the country will owe him a debt of gratitude. In fact, we owe him one for even trying, rather than slipping off quietly to a few non-exec directorships with BAe or whatever.

    As to the laughable prospect of disciplinary or administrative action - not a chance. The government trying to court-martial the former Chief of the General Staff for speaking out in office over welfare and strategy? At a time of war in Afghanistan? Utter suicide, even by the standards of this government....even it the case was actually taken forward. Would make the General Mitchell prosecution undertaken by the US in the 1920s look justifiable.

    I fully support the good General and would stand alongside him if asked. But a part of me would just love to see a Court Martial, just to see any prosecutor taken apart and have his legal entrails draped around his neck.

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    This is just New Labour spin, fcuk all was said when Lord West did the same thing to the Labour Shite a few years ago

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    Whatever the truth and morality of all this is, its only an announcement by the Conservatives, and he has not been ennobled as yet. Its not like he is taking a salary from the Opposition yet. If he chooses to advise the Conservatives shadow Defence team, he will not necessarily take remuneration from it.

    I would rather that they took advice from Dannatt, than say Eric Joyce.

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    Thing is though, it,s similar to what Hitler did to his Generals when he thought they disagreed with him, tried them in The Peoples Court, then strung them up from Meat Hooks,
    Er no. Disagreement was one thing, several who had some balls did. Being involved / or not in a plot to kill him was a different matter.


    This is just New Labour spin, fcuk all was said when Lord West did the same thing to the Labour Shite a few years ago
    Or when Air Marshal Garden took the Lib Dem whip.

    The Telegraph today reminds us that Field Marshal Kitchener was SoS for War back in the day. The Labour outrage bus has several flat tyres.

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    I met MJ once and if you didnt have a maroon lid you were scum. Quite a difference.[/quote]





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    My point was that some people who spoke out had interests in their own units/regiments/corps to act in their favour, however GD spoke out on behalf of the entire Army (and other services indirectly). A selfless act that is going to be punished.

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    Quote Originally Posted by armadillo
    My point was that some people who spoke out had interests in their own units/regiments/corps to act in their favour, however GD spoke out on behalf of the entire Army (and other services indirectly). A selfless act that is going to be punished.


    It,s Sunday relax, where,s your sense of Humour,nothing will happen to GD, and if it does it will readdressed, come next may. Mj,s was a soldiers soldier, he was my OC many moons ago, and if you look into his history his parent unit was not Para Regt.
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    On the plus side Frank Dobson is probably the only man that Brown and Mandleson hate more than Dannatt right now anyway

    At least he's (Dannatt) qualified look at the dross Browns given peerages to and installed in Goverment

    Although the clock is ticking on Mandleson one Blair becomes El Presidente he'll summon his Lord Vader to the Death Star near Brussels
    We should remember the tremendous contribution of the Queen Mother to the war effort:
    As the BBC pointed out, she 'bravely remained in London beside her husband' during the war.
    This contrasts sharply with the actions of my grandfather who, on the declaration of war immediately left his wife and children and pissed off, first to France, then North Africa, Italy, France (again) and finally Germany.
    The shame will always be with us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pararegtom
    Quote Originally Posted by armadillo
    My point was that some people who spoke out had interests in their own units/regiments/corps to act in their favour, however GD spoke out on behalf of the entire Army (and other services indirectly). A selfless act that is going to be punished.


    It,s Sunday relax, where,s your sense of Humour,nothing will happen to GD, and if it does it will readdressed, come next may. Mj,s was a soldiers soldier, he was my OC many moons ago, and if you look into his history his parent unit was not Para Regt.
    Hey I m relaxed and chilled, not frosty and angry,

    watching honeysuckle weeks on Yesterday, wife moaning about me watching it, reminded her that her daniel craig dvd collection is getting bigger.

    fair point about the sith lord though

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