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**Oyibo** · 03-10-2009, 12:36

Originally Posted by Biped

Originally Posted by petergriffen

Originally Posted by Biped

Sorry to ruin the party - but the huge amount of pressure being put on the Irish by not only the EU, but their own fcuking PM is quite absurd, with terrible tales of disaster for Ireland if it doesn't vote, and bankruptcy etc etc.

I think that, with the added voting fraud to secure it, they will vote 'YES' this time. The reason is - the EU and the bosses of Ireland, and the people backing Bliar cannot afford for it to be a 'no' vote.

Face it folks, or volkes - he's going to be Presidente!

What fucking voter fraud?....we're not Nigeria

BTW take it up with Intel, they placed full page ad's in every major newspaper and on TV for a yes vote....I wonder why a huge US company would do that?......maybe for fun?.

We already had the Irish American business council come out for it, one of the reasons we have all that FDI is because we are so close to the EU, and confidence in that is one of the drivers to keep them here and more besides.

PS we don't have a PM.....

No, you're not Nigeria - you're Ireland - nuff said.

Why on earth Intel is getting involved in what is basically Irish politics is fcuking beyond me!

At least Nigeria had a vote on its leadership.

UK seems rather shabby by comparison.

Sky News is report a yes vote.

**tearsbeforebedtime** · 03-10-2009, 13:40

Oh poo!

**lsquared** · 03-10-2009, 13:50

Originally Posted by EdwardCoke

BBC News reporting that the "Yes" camp looks likely to emerge victorious.

Hail President Blair!

FVCK 'PRESIDENT' Bliar and FVCK HIS UGLY WIFE (BUT NOT WITH MINE!).

Today is sad, sad day for civilisation and the beginning of the end of democracy.

**SS_Jarvis** · 03-10-2009, 13:59

So this is how Democracy dies with a Thunderous WAH!

**Biped** · 03-10-2009, 14:26

Fcuking bog-trotting fcukwits. So easily bowled over by the promise of a few Euros. They too easily forgot that Ireland went it alone in the financial crisis - because the EU didn't help!

**jboldie** · 03-10-2009, 14:29

A more offensive insult to the memories of those who gave so much to fight the ideology behind anything remotely resembling this shabby treaty is hard to imagine.I wonder how those WW2 veterans still alive view both their and their colleagues' efforts now-I'll wager that they often wonder why....

**lsquared** · 03-10-2009, 14:38

Originally Posted by jboldie

Sorry to take issue but the EU isn't actually an empire nor is likely to become one on its own.

Definition of empire:

1. An extensive group of States or countries under a single supreme authority.

2. Supreme dominion often followed by absolute control.

In 1 above - the current constituents of the European Soviet Union

In 2 above - the absolute control of the unelected and unaccountable commissioners.

Your argument is interesting but flawed. It dismisses the wishes of populations; it ignores language and cultural issues; it fails to take accurate account of geography; it assumes that the human spirit will be permanently vanquished and subjugated by a series of 'all powerful' beings (vide 2 above) in the mould of Stalin, Mao Tse Tung, Hitler, Idi Amin, Pol Pot, Kim-il Jong, Giscard D'Estaing, Emperor Bokassa, Mugabe, Napoleon, Robespierre, Bliar and other mentally unstable monsters.

**Schleswig-Holstein** · 03-10-2009, 14:45

Originally Posted by jboldie

A more offensive insult to the memories of those who gave so much to fight the ideology behind anything remotely resembling this shabby treaty is hard to imagine.I wonder how those WW2 veterans still alive view both their and their colleagues' efforts now-I'll wager that they often wonder why....

to be fair, this is Ireland we are talking about...

I know a lot of Irish joined up, but they were neutral in WW2 (and that twunt De Valera signed the condolences book after AH topped himself)

**seaweed** · 03-10-2009, 14:50

Presumably President Blair will have to be saluted by all uniformed members of all EU Armed Forces, using a standardised salute of the right forearm held out straight at 45 degrees to the deck, palm open downwards, fingers fully extended. Try it. You've seen it before on the last guy to try and make himself dictator of Europe. Heil Tony!