Discuss anonymous Welsh Guards captain in paper today? at the Current Affairs, News and Analysis forum within the The Army Rumour Service website; Originally Posted by duffdike
Well in due course the incredulous naivety of most of the ...
Re: anonymous Welsh Guards captain in paper today?
Originally Posted by duffdike
No. I meant incredulous.
really?
"Definition
incredulous adjective
not wanting or not able to believe something, and usually showing this:
A few incredulous spectators watched as Paterson, ranked 23rd in the world, beat the champion.
incredulity
noun [U]
He felt a sense of incredulity, anger and pain at the accusation made against him.
incredulously
adverb
"Did you see that?" she asked incredulously.
Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways,camel blue in one hand,wine in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming WOW!!! WHAT A RIDE !!!!!!!!!!!
I can see it now, in a decade ARRSE will be full of young thrusters who will be complaining about all the old farts who go on about HERRICK, lurk in the office, "enable" stuff and how it's got fuck all to do with what's going on now.
During the evacuation of Crete Admiral Cunningham was determined that the "Navy must not let the Army down". When Army officers expressed concerns that he would lose too many ships, Cunningham said that "It takes three years to build a ship, it takes three centuries to build a tradition".
Re: anonymous Welsh Guards captain in paper today?
Originally Posted by P2000
Incredulous naivety would be oxymoronic.
As opposed to your posts, Duff, which are merely moronic.
Don't want to get into the semantics, but I'm not sure that incredulous and naive are contradictory. For example as a young man, lacking world experience, I was incredulous when a lady in Thailand fired a banana across the room. I was therefore both incredulous and naive.
Back on thread - wouldn't want to detract from the almost universal baiting of Duff's 1899 idea of an officer's values.
However, I do have the tiniest glimpse of empathy where he might've been coming from (it's a bit difficult to keep track). I feel sorry for those who are going to go on tour thinking 'even the junior officers are sounding-off publicly - things must be bad and I'm going to go and do 6 months of it'. Not great for morale. I know these opinions exist on public record, but who's saying it does make a difference. Indeed, that's why it has made such an impact on this site.
That said, this clearly intelligent young man has considered his position and shown an enormous amount of moral courage, a value at times lacking in more politically astute officers. I hope his words and the widespread support here are heeded and make his undoubted career sacrifice worthwhile. In 5 years he will sleep well knowing that he tried to make a difference. I wish him well.
Re: anonymous Welsh Guards captain in paper today?
Perhaps incredulous at the incredible naivete?
Point is, regardless of semantics, the majority of posters on this site appear to sympathise with the anon' (alleged) WG BG 'senior captain.' Now of those who DO, excluding TA and Cadets, how many are serving officers? Former officers? Serving soldiers? Former soldiers?
Officers of my generation - and I'm a little older than the much maligned DD - would've been very uncomfortable if one of our contemporaries had written such a letter. Our reaction, and comments - from infantrymen in particular - THEN would have been pretty much the same as DD's - 'bottled out' - 'crapped out' etc, etc., the reaction from the SNCO Corps would've been even less complimentary.
I'm not interested in whether or not the author of 'the letter' is still 'in theatre.' I AM interested in whether or not his actions are condoned by his contemporaries throughout the Officer Corps. Frankly, if they are we've got some real problems with morale.
Re: anonymous Welsh Guards captain in paper today?
Originally Posted by Busterdog
...I AM interested in whether or not his actions are condoned by his contemporaries throughout the Officer Corps. Frankly, if they are we've got some real problems with morale.
Bd, surely you have disqualified yourself from asking that question. This website is in the public domain. If they follow your rules and the relevant DIN, officers cannot comment on the question you have raised, even if they agree with you. Catch 22 eh?
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