anonymous Welsh Guards captain in paper today?

**Glad_its_all_over** · 12-08-2009, 15:01

Originally Posted by go_on_then...

As for Glad - jolly good to see some of you chaps able to write, what, what?

Tuggin' the forelock now, Your Honour.

**Busterdog** · 12-08-2009, 15:15

Originally Posted by hackle

To me the really interesting thing is how much support there is for the anonymous writer, and how untypical is duffdike's opinion.

Matter of different generation different mores - perhaps.

The anonymous alleged Welsh Guardee's cri de coeur published in the Indy is both poignant and truthful though I'm a little bemused that an officer would write in such a vein to the press.
Why? Well, officers of my generation wouldn't have dreamed of writing to the press on such matters - although they would have discussed the situation among themselves they would not have discussed it with their subordinates either.
Old fashioned? Perhaps, though that was the style in those far off days.

I'm not condemning the anonymous officer though wonder if his actions received the same approbation from the (serving) Officer Corps as they have by the majority of members posting on this thread?

**duffdike** · 12-08-2009, 15:20

Thanks busterdog. I am going back to harrumphing into my Telegraph at the In and Out.

**verticalgyro** · 12-08-2009, 15:43

Originally Posted by duffdike

For serious soldiering cheerfulness and good humour in the face of adversity are key requirements for all ranks. People like the Marines and SF place it very high on their list of personal qualities that they are looking for.

I don't believe you have ever served in the British Army. The British soldiers I know (and I have met one or two over the years) far prefer to moan and bitch in the face of adversity.

It appears that there is very little cheerfulness to be had on Op Herrick.

You're simply going from the ridiculous to the sublime now, making statements to try and back up your initial poor judgement. Step away from the keyboard and go outside for a walk. Take the Mess Webley with you if you like.

**MrPVRd** · 12-08-2009, 15:51

Originally Posted by Busterdog

Originally Posted by hackle

To me the really interesting thing is how much support there is for the anonymous writer, and how untypical is duffdike's opinion.

Matter of different generation different mores - perhaps.

The anonymous alleged Welsh Guardee's cri de coeur published in the Indy is both poignant and truthful though I'm a little bemused that an officer would write in such a vein to the press.
Why? Well, officers of my generation wouldn't have dreamed of writing to the press on such matters - although they would have discussed the situation among themselves they would not have discussed it with their subordinates either.
Old fashioned? Perhaps, though that was the style in those far off days.

I'm not condemning the anonymous officer though wonder if his actions received the same approbation from the (serving) Officer Corps as they have by the majority of members posting on this thread?

Different generation, different mores certainly applies with regard to the modern political classes....the Armed Forces traditions of trust, loyalty, selflessness and duty have been thorougly and utterly abused time and time again over the last decade.

The anonymous officer is in fact part of the serving officer corps. I'd also point to the diary of another Welsh Guards officer which contains a similar commentary....tragically, Lt Evison did not live to tell the tale and his journal was published after his death.

As it stands I have a lack of radios, water, food and medical equipment. This with manpower is what these missions lack. It is disgraceful to send a platoon into a very dangerous area with two weeks' water and food and one team medics pack. Injuries will be sustained which I will not be able to treat and deaths could occur which could have been stopped. We are walking on a tightrope and from what it seems here are likely to fall unless drastic measures are undertaken.

**Heidthebaw** · 12-08-2009, 20:11

Did it occur to anyone that perhaps it wasn't an officer from the WG's BG that wrote the article? Or any BattleGroup for that matter. . .

Just a thought.

**duffdike** · 12-08-2009, 20:29

In my bleaker moments it has occurred to me that it might be one of Richard Dannats PR things.

**Busterdog** · 12-08-2009, 20:34

Aye Heidthebaw - that's why I posed the question to serving officers in my previous post!

**Heidthebaw** · 12-08-2009, 21:19

Fair enough - the opposition love nothing more than repeatedly bashing the present government over the head with the Afghan stick; and quite rightly too - but I'm not exactly convinced over their deep-seated motivation for doing so.

**tearsbeforebedtime** · 13-08-2009, 04:08

It was a serving Officer of WG BG. He is, suddenly, no longer in theatre.

**StickyEnd** · 13-08-2009, 04:52

Originally Posted by GrumpyGit

Originally Posted by OldSnowy

Note: Member of the WG BG - NOT a Welsh Guards Officer.

This was not written by a Guardsman - too many long words........

No, in truth, there must be well over 1,000 Men in the BG, and this chap is certainly an Officer, but equally certainly not a WG Officer.
Intersting article, mind you, and something that suits the Indy down to the ground.

And you know because...............?

read the article. It was not written by an infantryman.

**The_Snail** · 13-08-2009, 05:37

Originally Posted by StickyEnd

Originally Posted by GrumpyGit

Originally Posted by OldSnowy

Note: Member of the WG BG - NOT a Welsh Guards Officer.

This was not written by a Guardsman - too many long words........

No, in truth, there must be well over 1,000 Men in the BG, and this chap is certainly an Officer, but equally certainly not a WG Officer.
Intersting article, mind you, and something that suits the Indy down to the ground.

And you know because...............?

read the article. It was not written by an infantryman.

++++++
You are dead clever sticky.

Even my dog thinks you are dull.

**once_a_maverick** · 13-08-2009, 05:55

Originally Posted by tearsbeforebedtime

It was a serving Officer of WG BG. He is, suddenly, no longer in theatre.

That took longer than expected

**StickyEnd** · 13-08-2009, 06:42

Originally Posted by The_Snail

Originally Posted by StickyEnd

Originally Posted by GrumpyGit

Originally Posted by OldSnowy

Note: Member of the WG BG - NOT a Welsh Guards Officer.

This was not written by a Guardsman - too many long words........

No, in truth, there must be well over 1,000 Men in the BG, and this chap is certainly an Officer, but equally certainly not a WG Officer.
Intersting article, mind you, and something that suits the Indy down to the ground.

And you know because...............?

read the article. It was not written by an infantryman.

++++++
You are dead clever sticky.

Even my dog thinks you are dull.

So what? Do you have a point to make regarding the OP or the topic of the thread in general?

Probably not.

This is not all about YOU (or me). Try to be relevant.........if you can.