Originally Posted by hairyarse2

But the question was, is it classed as 'Rent'?
IE Do the DSS pay the rent, if the person holding the mortgage is out of work?

Have a read of these.

http://www.mortgages.co.uk/islamic-m...c-finance.html

Originally Posted by Biscuits_AB

Originally Posted by countymounty

Originally Posted by tropper66

Sound like a saterday night in Belfast back in the day, I honistly thought he was pulling one

Bunch off amatures!

You two having some sort of spelling crisis?

Did they mean "armatures"? Is it some form of light industrial protest involving windings?

Originally Posted by bluntslane

Originally Posted by Biscuits_AB

Originally Posted by countymounty

Originally Posted by tropper66

Sound like a saterday night in Belfast back in the day, I honistly thought he was pulling one

Bunch off amatures!

You two having some sort of spelling crisis?

Did they mean "armatures"? Is it some form of light industrial protest involving windings?

Apparently they used to make armatures in Birmingham you know.

This thread is about Birmingham is'nt it?

I think I may riot.

Then we can have a thread about neo-classicism.

Originally Posted by Biped

That's what I think this is about. The long term goal of making us all global citizens in a socialist dystopia, sorry, Utopia. A place from which we cannot remove ourselves if we don't like it, for there is nowhere to go. A place where the global socialist government takes care of us all, minds how we think and act, and controls the means of production - EVERYWHERE!

Why is this? I'll tell you why this is. International Marxism/Leftism/Socialism sees and plans for a global super-state. The entire world a single entity, with a global government, obviously a global socialist paradise, controlled by the left, in which the nation state has ceased to exist. If you have a tribe, with a nation and a strong self-awareness, identity, then if will be the hardest to dissolve - see 'EU Referendum' for a case in point.

Proof positive that if you let a paranoid delusional type long enough, he'll reveal himself to be the loon he really is. Your place is with the people who live in the mountains of the western US, fully stocked up with guns and ammo, waiting for the UN black helecopters.

Originally Posted by LancePrivateJones

Originally Posted by bluntslane

Originally Posted by Biscuits_AB

Originally Posted by countymounty

Originally Posted by tropper66

Sound like a saterday night in Belfast back in the day, I honistly thought he was pulling one

Bunch off amatures!

You two having some sort of spelling crisis?

Did they mean "armatures"? Is it some form of light industrial protest involving windings?

Apparently they used to make armatures in Birmingham you know.

This thread is about Birmingham is'nt it?

I think I may riot.

Then we can have a thread about neo-classicism.

Top post LPJ

Originally Posted by Markintime

Originally Posted by stacker1

Originally Posted by Markintime

In Sharia Law it says that you can't be charged extortionate charges by your bank, now I certainly wouldn't argue with that, would you?

Thank goodness for Sharia law then, because we would never be able to implement a law ourselves without their help.

Oh and Sharia law forbids banks from giving you interest on your savings I suppose you wouldn't argue with that either.

That's exactly the point I'm trying to make Stacker, if we implement the law for ourselves than we are adopting and adapting an aspect of Sharia Law for our own needs. Any political party that included a promise to bring in a law which forbade banks to make exorbitant charges would be a serious contender for my vote.
Don't discount something just because it is part of Sharia Law but if it fits your needs then adopt it. Our own laws are none to dissimilar to Sharia Law. They outlaw murder, so do we. Should we now legalise murder because it is also part of Sharia Law? I'm not advocating making Muslim Law the guiding principle of our Law I'm just saying that if it will benefit us then why automatically discount it? Over the years we've adapted Greek, Roman, French, German, Indian and European Law to suit our own needs, why is it that Sharia Law must be taboo in extant?

Certainly adapt any part of any law that is sensible and beneficial to the public. However, I think that the point is that Sharia law should not be allowed to function as a parrallel law to our own law. Our law may be copied by other countries as a basis for their own system, but would not be tolerated as an equal law, say in Iran e.g. Also. I don't believe that it was inferred that mulim and hebrew followers should be disallowed to exercise any of their rights, quite the contrary, I would say that we bend over backward to accomodate them. The point made was that Halal prepared meat, is ritualistic and cruel and should be outlawed. Then, yes they would be denied. But as stated, Halal prepared meat is not an imperative, but I doubt that many of their faith are told that. Therefore they can eat the same meat as we do, or not as they wish. Some muslims see this as yet another attack on their beliefs.

Originally Posted by stacker1

Originally Posted by hairyarse2

But the question was, is it classed as 'Rent'?
IE Do the DSS pay the rent, if the person holding the mortgage is out of work?

Have a read of these.

http://www.mortgages.co.uk/islamic-m...c-finance.html

Ijara
This is a type of arrangement where an Islamic bank leases equipment or a building to a customer in return for a rental payment.

The rent is a fixed sum so the bank is sure to get its investment back with profit. A variation of the agreement is Ijara wa iqtina which has the same arrangement but the agreement is to purchase. This is a popular option.

Woo Hoo, it's the way ahead if you're workshy. Must get Sharia mortgage.

Originally Posted by Markintime

Originally Posted by LancePrivateJones

You two having some sort of spelling crisis?

Did they mean "armatures"? Is it some form of light industrial protest involving windings?

Apparently they used to make armatures in Birmingham you know.

This thread is about Birmingham is'nt it?

I think I may riot.

Then we can have a thread about neo-classicism.[/quote]

Top post LPJ [/quote]

I set 'em up, he knocks 'em down.

I would like to thank 'Bluntslane' and 'Markintime' for their crafty use of vernacular and it has been a pleasure doing business with them.

Viva Birmingham.

Originally Posted by parapauk

Originally Posted by Biped

That's what I think this is about. The long term goal of making us all global citizens in a socialist dystopia, sorry, Utopia. A place from which we cannot remove ourselves if we don't like it, for there is nowhere to go. A place where the global socialist government takes care of us all, minds how we think and act, and controls the means of production - EVERYWHERE!

Why is this? I'll tell you why this is. International Marxism/Leftism/Socialism sees and plans for a global super-state. The entire world a single entity, with a global government, obviously a global socialist paradise, controlled by the left, in which the nation state has ceased to exist. If you have a tribe, with a nation and a strong self-awareness, identity, then if will be the hardest to dissolve - see 'EU Referendum' for a case in point.

Proof positive that if you let a paranoid delusional type long enough, he'll reveal himself to be the loon he really is. Your place is with the people who live in the mountains of the western US, fully stocked up with guns and ammo, waiting for the UN black helecopters.

Is that not a stereotype the same as saying all black men are rapists or muslims are terrorists or all liberals are vicious potential mass murderers in disguise?