Originally Posted by VanHelsing

Originally Posted by Markintime

Originally Posted by mnairb

'Didn't one of the Guinness lot do the same thing. got out of prison uffering from dementia and then 'got better'.'

The name Pinochet also comes to mind, who was also, apparently, at death's door until getting back to Chile and making a miraculous recovery. Wasn't a former student activist called Jack Straw involved in that one too?

Yes, but at least Pinochet had the decency to die, although he did last another 8 years.You're quite right it was Straw who signed his release on medical grounds.

We did owe Pinochet a little favour from 1982 too, maybe that had a lot of bearing on the decision.

VH

I think you're right there. Good point.

'We did owe Pinochet a little favour from 1982 too, maybe that had a lot of bearing on the decision.'

I doubt it, Straw put Pinochet under house arrest pending extradition to Spain for alleged involvement in the death of 2 Spanish nuns in Chile (if I remember correctly). He was our guest for 18 months - a bit long to decide whether to repay a 'favour', don't you think.

In any case, the Falklands was Maggies' crowning victory and involved the armed forces. As New Liarbour despise both in equal measure it seems unlikely that it played any part in his release. I believe that some sort of 'deal' was done (or pressure brought to bear) - Straw was certainly left with egg on his face over it (no change there, then). Also, there is an unwritten rule that you don't lock up presidents of other countries lest it turn round and bite you on the bum, otherwise Bliar would have had his collar felt long ago.

The only loser was (once again) the taxpayer, who coughed up for the expense of keeping Pinochet in the style to which he is accustomed.

No doubt this decrepit piece of violent chav scum will get an East End state funeral like the Krays. "Diamond Geezers" obviously.

Don't forget that he was a walt as well - his gang dressed up in SAS uniform to carry out the robbery.

Surely as he was conceived and born to a UK National who was on the run in Brazil and who voluntarily put himself outside of the protection of UK Law, Biggs son Michael should now be sent back there as a non UK national?

My point is that IMO Biggs certainly shouldn't have been able to enjoy the same privileges whilst on the run from prison that other law-Abiding UK citizens do and any children born to him during this period should be classed as outside UK protection. Harsh for the lad I know but as a law- abiding UK tax-payer who will eventually have to pay for his welfare.......

Originally Posted by VanHelsing

He died 8 years after the incident from an unrelated condition, Leukemia. Even the authorities agreed that his death was not related to the robbery.
How on earth you can say he died early after 8 years had passed dying at the age of 65, which was then probably around the national average.
The fact he never did a stroke of work in that time and claimed sick benefit may have been considered milking it.
He suffered a black eye and some bruising. His condition and injuries were so minor that the police arrested him in handcuffs as they thought he was part of the gang then taken to hospital, still in handcuffs until the police were satisfied to release him.
So tell me, what vision of the events do you have. Not condoning the robbery at all but there are a lot of urban myths around the event, Mills being one of them.

VH

Not sure what the social was like in 1963, but I doubt it anything as generous as it is now. For a bloke who was 57 when he was violently attacked I doubt he was milking anything, people say it was just a bit of bruising and a black eye but that never get said when a picture of a pensioner whos been filled in by a chav and has the same injuries get published. Maybe after people have been smeash over the head themselves the might view differently.

Regardless of how he died the averarge life expectancy was 69 in 1971

Originally Posted by duffdike

No doubt this decrepit piece of violent chav scum will get an East End state funeral like the Krays. "Diamond Geezers" obviously.

No, he wont. Matter of geography.

Originally Posted by Markintime

Originally Posted by duffdike

No doubt this decrepit piece of violent chav scum will get an East End state funeral like the Krays. "Diamond Geezers" obviously.

No, he wont. Matter of geography.

He can get buried anywhere he likes, I'm sure his family will cash in on the Diana style funeral when he finally dies.

Stacker
Dont think I condone the Robbery or the attack.
But the Mills bit is an urban myth. His condition at the time was not even thought urgent, hence still in handcuffs.
I just found Whets' hypocracy amusing. It's him and his type who have released scum back on our streets. If they were given 30 years too he'd have an argument.
Biggs played a very small part in the robbery and it was only his escape that made him infamous. Had he stayed in prison he would have been one of the first to be released probably.
There are a lot of myths regarding the robbery.
In truth an innocent man was also sent down in the trial, who played no part in the robbery.

VH

Originally Posted by VanHelsing

Stacker
Dont think I condone the Robbery or the attack.
But the Mills bit is an urban myth. His condition at the time was not even thought urgent, hence still in handcuffs.
I just found Whets' hypocracy amusing. It's him and his type who have released scum back on our streets. If they were given 30 years too he'd have an argument.
Biggs played a very small part in the robbery and it was only his escape that made him infamous. Had he stayed in prison he would have been one of the first to be released probably.
There are a lot of myths regarding the robbery.
In truth an innocent man was also sent down in the trial, who played no part in the robbery.

VH

I have read conflicting accounts of Bigg's involvement in the gang saying he was either a leader and central planner or a very small cog in the machine. I forget now, wasn't he one of the gang that stood trial for the 'hidden link' robbery where, even at the trial, the prosecution were unable to prove that the gang could have got in and out through a locked gate. It was only after they were found not guilty that one of them went over to the lock and chain and undid the secret link. I don't know why but I had thought that was Biggs. Am I barking up the wrong tree or just barking?