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    Rebuilding Trust in Parliament

    I just loved this…

    Parliament needs to be more diverse

    Trust in politicians, at a low in the wake of the expenses scandal, would not be restored if the Commons was refilled with "more of the same" white, middle aged, middle-class, able-bodied men, they warned.
    Well naturally. White middle-aged, middle-class, able bodied men are all fraudsters. We’re probably part of the forces of conservatism too.

    The call for parties to make sure 50% or more of new candidates were female - and to secure an increase in the numbers from ethnic minorities or with disabilities.
    Because of course none of these groups can even think of doing anything iffy…
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    Re: Rebuilding Trust in Parliament

    This country is so corrupt that virtually all right thinking people have long since lost faith in the parliamentary system.
    Socialism is the junior brother of communism and should be eliminated in Britain forthwith.

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    Maybe they should set up a quango to oversee it and get ashie to head it up :P

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    Re: Rebuilding Trust in Parliament

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainPlume
    I just loved this…

    Parliament needs to be more diverse

    Trust in politicians, at a low in the wake of the expenses scandal, would not be restored if the Commons was refilled with "more of the same" white, middle aged, middle-class, able-bodied men, they warned.
    Well naturally. White middle-aged, middle-class, able bodied men are all fraudsters. We’re probably part of the forces of conservatism too.

    The call for parties to make sure 50% or more of new candidates were female - and to secure an increase in the numbers from ethnic minorities or with disabilities.
    Because of course none of these groups can even think of doing anything iffy…
    Look at some of the main offenders? I'm sure, despite appearances to the contrary, that they were female. No doubt some feminist 'wimminz' movement will try to use this to force their 'rights' on.

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    You really couldn't make this up:

    "We believe that the House of Commons needs to change. Increasing the diversity of MPs would make it a more just, legitimate and effective legislature. We believe that in the public's eyes this would make it a more credible legislature," the Conference said.
    So, in spite of the fact that politicians have been thoroughly fückin' the populace over since the inception of parliament, they, in their faraway little world, believe all they have to do is add a few biddies, Asians etc to their little bunch of slimy, corrupt, greedy, skiving shysters and all will be well?

    I don't think so!

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    Well they've managed to turn the country into a banana republic, may as well go the whole hog.

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    Re: Rebuilding Trust in Parliament

    Quote Originally Posted by Bugsy
    You really couldn't make this up:

    "We believe that the House of Commons needs to change. Increasing the diversity of MPs would make it a more just, legitimate and effective legislature. We believe that in the public's eyes this would make it a more credible legislature," the Conference said.
    So, in spite of the fact that politicians have been thoroughly fückin' the populace over since the inception of parliament, they, in their faraway little world, believe all they have to do is add a few biddies, Asians etc to their little bunch of slimy, corrupt, greedy, skiving shysters and all will be well?

    I don't think so!

    MsG

    I think you'll find that women MPs and Asian MPs are well represented in the expenses and troughing stakes.

    Diversity in Action.


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    Re: Rebuilding Trust in Parliament

    Here's a revolutionary idea. 100% of candidates should be honest!

    We should have a new criminal offence, in addition to misconduct in public office, let's have dishonesty as a member of parliament which covers everything from lying to false expenses to corruption and make it a minimum mandatory 5 year term.
    'The honesty and bravery of our fighting forces stands in stark contrast to the weasel words and dishonesty of their political masters'. Liam Fox Now with 'added irony'!


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    Well, even if 32% of the 50% women MPs are complete cretins, we should still have 50% or more, just to make the numbers look good. It's not a case of asking the public to vote for the person (male or female) they think will do the best job of representing them, we need to queer (oops) the pitch by presenting women-only shortlists to the voters, so they HAVE to vote for a woman, irrespective of the rights or wrongs of such a thing.

    For those where we can find no women who want the job, we should the voters to pick between black and/or disabled people too. This is not about ability or representative democracy, we need to enforce diversity so that the voter gets the best value from their democracy.

    This country needs minority government to make things fair. The majority have had their way far too long, and it's done nothing for the country. Let's get the smallest minorities we can find, and give them a crack at the whip, after all, having no arms, or being blind, or having a penchant for going to Mardi Gras festivals or Wimmin's Lib meetings is an excellent qualification for the corridoors of power.
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    Used-car salespersons, estate agents, politicians. I don't reckon you could slide a spliff-skin between 'em.

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    We alrady have a physically disabled PM (Who is also mentally deranged) and look at the mess he's made of things the uselss cnut. The most powerful man in the country (Mandleson) is a shirt lifter and look how corrupt he is. Keith Vaz and a fair few other minority MP's seem to be at the forefront of the trough themselves. And as for some of the females in government, dishonest and incompetent to a man!

    We need ex soldiers in Parliament, better still lets have serving soldiers in the commons, preferably rounding the corrupt b*stards up!

    We need a coup.

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    Re: Rebuilding Trust in Parliament

    Quote Originally Posted by Markintime
    Here's a revolutionary idea. 100% of candidates should be honest!

    We should have a new criminal offence, in addition to misconduct in public office, let's have dishonesty as a member of parliament which covers everything from lying to false expenses to corruption and make it a minimum mandatory 5 year term.
    Sounds good to me.

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    Re: Rebuilding Trust in Parliament

    I never lost faith in Parliament, don't imagine I ever will. It's a lovely building, still structurally sound after all these years.

    On a serious note, I doubt the public will ever recover their faith in our Parliamentarians and that's actually no bad thing, IMO. They get to pass laws that govern our lives and we should never, ever trust someone in that position. We should be looking over their shoulders every single step of the way or we get what we have now - a bunch of self-serving hypocrites who put themselves above the rest of us.

    A massive dose of public mistrust, abject contempt and a cheeky wee general election may at least remind that particular caste of exactly who serves who.
    We need people who look to the stars, holding the nation and the world in their hearts but at the same time we need down-to-earth people who can do serious and trying work.

    In a definite sense, a country's power and prestige isn't only a reflection of its economic power but also a reflection of its people's quality and morality. Moreover, I think the latter is actually more important in the long-term.

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    Re: Rebuilding Trust in Parliament

    Quote Originally Posted by Markintime
    Here's a revolutionary idea. 100% of candidates should be honest!

    We should have a new criminal offence, in addition to misconduct in public office, let's have dishonesty as a member of parliament which covers everything from lying to false expenses to corruption and make it a minimum mandatory 5 year term.
    Dream on. Politics and honesty are oxymorons!
    But I like your idea for a new criminal offence, we could use it in the states too! Of course, there'd be no one left - guess we could outsource! Cheaper and better workers, as we are always told!
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    If only......
    we had MPs who were honest and elected because they were concerned about the welfare of their constituents rather than the party (all a bunch of Communists whatever their flavour). I might then respect them regardless of race, creed, colour or gender.
    No sooner did we form into teams than we were re-organised.
    I was to learn later in life that we tend to meet every situation by re-organising and what a wonderful method it is for giving the illusion of progress whilst only producing confusion, inefficiency & demoralisation.
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