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**Bugsy** · 01-07-2009, 11:39

Originally Posted by Recce19

Yes I know what you mean and they are changing them. Leiter is used now to mean leader or manager, in fact manager is being more used each day and is now accepted as part of the language. Used as part of a word-title it's not to bad and I think a major language change would be needed to eradicate it. Even the humble driving license has it; FÃ¼hrerschein. Then you could pick on Ausweis as that was all you heard in the war

You could call it eine Fahrerlaubnis, like in Switzerland. But if you want a travel guide, there's no getting around "ReisefÃ¼hrer" or "StadtfÃ¼hrer" for city guide.

It's just that the word isn't as evocative for Boxheeds as it is for other nations.

MsG

**para_medic** · 01-07-2009, 11:47

Originally Posted by Bugsy

You could call it eine Fahrerlaubnis, like in Switzerland. But if you want a travel guide, there's no getting around "ReisefÃ¼hrer" or "StadtfÃ¼hrer" for city guide.

Wrongx2. a) The Fuehrerschein is the actual document - called Fuehrerausweis in Helvetia IIRC. The Fahrerlaubnis is the right to drive a motor i.e. having passed a test etc.
b) In the GDR they were called "Stadtbilderklaerer"

But, as ever, I am prepared to stand corrected.

Back on threat and German need for Lebensraum...

**whitecity** · 01-07-2009, 11:55

Originally Posted by para_medic

Back on threat and German need for Lebensraum...

Slovenia and Croatia would probably be willing to reunified with Berlin and/or Vienna.

**rickshaw-major** · 01-07-2009, 11:59

So should we stop calling the Luftwaffe - the Luftwaffe? I mean - it's an Air Force FFS so what else can we call it?

Mind you I think calling the guy in charge of the Ministery of the Interior the Reichsfuehrer SS might be just a tad too far. As is the renaming of the Border Guards to the Bundesgrenzschutzstaffel

**rickshaw-major** · 01-07-2009, 12:02

Originally Posted by whitecity

Originally Posted by para_medic

Back on threat and German need for Lebensraum...

Slovenia and Croatia would probably be willing to reunified with Berlin and/or Vienna.

Oh aye! Correct me if I'm wrong on this but didn't this cause a couple of problems in my neck of the woods on several occasions

**Zemlyak** · 01-07-2009, 12:04

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...and how far into Belarus, Lithuania and Ukraine you'd have to drive to reach the old Polish/USSR border...[/quote]

Tongue firmly in cheek and picking up KGB Resident's theme, might have had to drive further thro' Ukraine if the the new Ukrainian border actually de-marcated the approximate ethnic areas. The 'ethnic Ukrainian' areas labeled as Ruthenian.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...911.jpg/790px-

In 1994 I took my mum (Ukrainian) to her village near Sanok in Poland. Before the war she was able to go to work in Lviv then in Poland. Whilst the Ukraine/Polish border moved west putting Lviv in Ukraine, her village remained in Poland. Before the war, the villagers were all Ukrainian speakers, the Poles living predominantly in the town. During our visit we found a few of her old Ukrainian neighbours still living there but the villagers were all now mostly Polish. This the result of a massive movement of Ukrainians (including my relatives who now live in Lviv) and Poles in a swap of populations after the war. Some of the tales of the move I've heard are heart rending. An experience (and worse) that must have been repeated thro' other parts of Europe.

**TalaveraTom** · 01-07-2009, 12:09

DON'T PANIC!!!!....DON'T PANIC!!!!

**whitecity** · 01-07-2009, 12:12

Originally Posted by rickshaw-major

Originally Posted by whitecity

Originally Posted by para_medic

Back on threat and German need for Lebensraum...

Slovenia and Croatia would probably be willing to reunified with Berlin and/or Vienna.

Oh aye! Correct me if I'm wrong on this but didn't this cause a couple of problems in my neck of the woods on several occasions

It did. A fair few Slovene and Croats were most disheartened when the Wehrmacht/SS/Gestapo were encouraged to leave in '45. Never forgiven the Anglo-Saxons, the Serbs nor Tito for the impudence of the past 65 years!

Only question is will they greet the return more or less than they did in '41?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtI7I6RUKDA

**cernunnos** · 01-07-2009, 12:14

Not all the Germans who woke up one day in the new Poland had the chance to pack their monkeys and parrots and head for the land of the carton headed people.

Marienburg/Malbork

On the other hand my family were driven out of the Schlewig-Holstein area in an open boat in about 619 AD by the aggresive Christianising Franks. In reparation I claim the entire city of Hamburg and about 14 centuries of unpaid rent. I'll also be speaking to the RAF about the damage they did to my property in WWII.