Originally Posted by cupoftea

Originally Posted by whitecity

Originally Posted by rickshaw-major

Originally Posted by cupoftea

Which isn't that far from saying that the Kosovans are not really a nation but some Albanians who cynically maneuvered for more lebensraum and some Serbs who rather thought not...

Ohhhhh - you will rot in hell for all time

A definite candidate for the BCS of CE establishment, Podujevo Campus methinks!

Which room prof? 20-01 or 19-99?

You'll be beasted around the lot of them by 'Big Agi' - but mostly left in a chilly skip.

Took my bike down to Kosovska Mitrovica at the weekend - just to see what kicked off on Vidovdan. Was rather disappointed by the non-event. :(

Originally Posted by Mr_Deputy

Originally Posted by rickshaw-major

Originally Posted by whitecity

Originally Posted by Ruckerwocman

So Uncle Adolf was right - there really were Germans in the Sudetenland...

?

The problems is that resurgent nationalism gave everyone that ide that if they spelt a word differently or had a funny accent they got to be a nation! And it's still happening FFS!

That could apply to Belgium too!

This is the 'benefit' of the EU; people like the Scots, the Catalans, the Walloons or the Flemish think that they can be 'independent within Europe'. Someone else will worry about difficult things like Defence and foreign policy, while they can worry about the important things like what language the school textbooks are in, and when the rubbish gets collected.

Originally Posted by angular

This is the 'benefit' of the EU; people like the Scots, the Catalans, the Walloons or the Flemish think that they can be 'independent within Europe'. Someone else will worry about difficult things like Defence and foreign policy, while they can worry about the important things like what language the school textbooks are in, and when the rubbish gets collected.

Nice theory!
Tell it to these guys:
Secessionist Movements in Europe - active

Originally Posted by angular

This is the 'benefit' of the EU; people like the Scots, the Catalans, the Walloons or the Flemish think that they can be 'independent within Europe'.

No, sadly that is the delusion of bureaucrats in Brussels and other likeminded woolly liberal areas.

Originally Posted by para_medic

Originally Posted by Bugsy

You could call it eine Fahrerlaubnis, like in Switzerland. But if you want a travel guide, there's no getting around "Reiseführer" or "Stadtführer" for city guide.

Wrongx2. a) The Fuehrerschein is the actual document - called Fuehrerausweis in Helvetia IIRC. The Fahrerlaubnis is the right to drive a motor i.e. having passed a test etc.
b) In the GDR they were called "Stadtbilderklaerer"
But, as ever, I am prepared to stand corrected.

You're confusing folks here, mucker. All I wanted to do was offer an alternative to "Führerschein" that every German-speaking "Heini" and his great-aunt understands, and you pop up in your front-room ankle-deep in split hairs maintaining "wrong, wrong, wrong!". That does nobody any favours, vecchio.

So let's straighten this out a bit, eh? Führerschein" can be represented (and in no way misunderstood) in Germany by the synonyms: "Fahrerlaubnis", "Fahrausweis", "Lenkzettel", "Lappen", "Pappe", "Ribbe", "Schleudernicke"; in Switzerland, the corresponding synonyms are: "Führerausweis" (almost never used in real life), "Fahrausweis", "Permis", "Schüncherli", "Töffcharta", "Migroslappen", "Querfahrlappen". There may be a few more colloquial (umgangsprachliche) terms in both countries that I'm not familiar with.

para-medic, the term "Stadtbildaufklärer" went the way of "Jahresendflüglelfigur", "Broiler","Plaste und Elaste" und "Geschenksackträger" yonks ago, I mean really yonks ago. Do try to keep up, mucker.

I' verstaa scho diineri Motivation, Maggä. Hesch's welle druuf ancho' lo', mit däni Chentiissi der Sproch n' so, nödd wah?. Vaaziih vuemals, liäbi Luüemmeltuäti, abaa chosst mer nödd s'Wasser riiche i' denere Hi'sicht, miis Fründ. So isch's Läbe, oder? Nimm's liicht!

To get back to the theme of the thread before we were so ruptly interruded: I honestly don't believe that there is (or will be) any danger at all of Germany rearing its (once very ugly) head in a bid to obtain additional "Lebensraum". Circumstances would have to be very catastrophic indeed for that to be a viable alternative for the Boxheeds. But never say never, eh?

MsG

Originally Posted by Bugsy

To get back to the theme of the thread before we were so ruptly interruded: I honestly don't believe that there is (or will be) any danger at all of Germany rearing its (once very ugly) head in a bid to obtain additional "Lebensraum". Circumstances would have to be very catastrophic indeed for that to be a viable alternative for the Boxheeds. But never say never, eh?

Strange. On other ARRSE threads, the Germans are positively encouraged to participate in extending their "Lebensraum" - albeit in places such as Afghanistan.

Originally Posted by whitecity

Originally Posted by cupoftea

Originally Posted by whitecity

Originally Posted by rickshaw-major

Originally Posted by cupoftea

Which isn't that far from saying that the Kosovans are not really a nation but some Albanians who cynically maneuvered for more lebensraum and some Serbs who rather thought not...

Ohhhhh - you will rot in hell for all time

A definite candidate for the BCS of CE establishment, Podujevo Campus methinks!

Which room prof? 20-01 or 19-99?

You'll be beasted around the lot of them by 'Big Agi' - but mostly left in a chilly skip.

Took my bike down to Kosovska Mitrovica at the weekend - just to see what kicked off on Vidovdan. Was rather disappointed by the non-event. :(

You should have gotten stuck in with the 1389 lot who were pelting Bogdanovic's car with pieces of the Heart of Serbia the day before.

Meanwhile, back in Poland...

Utter non-story, utterly non-swimming (but maybe fast - as lightning - over ground with close air support ) notion. Crass electioneering at best. While I don't think that it would be unreasonable for Poland to be big and let the East Prussian Germans go back (even in some sort of token measure) since they were victims of events and reparations for WWII overall have already been settled, I think it is far too reasonable for this universe, not to mention a total vote-killer in Poland. So, in my parallel universe it shall stay. Lala lala laaa...

Originally Posted by cupoftea

Meanwhile, back in Poland...

Utter non-story, utterly non-swimming/flying notion. Crass electioneering at best. While I don't think that it would be unreasonable for Poland to be big and let the East Prussian Germans go back, as they were victims of events and reparations for WWII overall have already been settled, I think it is far too reasonable for this universe, not to mention a total vote-killer in Poland, so it will stay in my parallel universe. Lala lala laaa...

The issue is good for some votes on either side of the border but who in his right mind would seriously want to open that can of worms - where do you start
They should all give it a rest, especially the downtrodden innocent* German refugees...

*(innocent, individually maybe)

Originally Posted by para_medic

Originally Posted by cupoftea

Meanwhile, back in Poland...

The issue is good for some votes on either side of the border but who in his right mind would seriously want to open that can of worms - where do you start
They should all give it a rest, especially the downtrodden innocent* German refugees...

*(innocent, individually maybe)

Yup. No one intends to open the can of worms, they're just waving it around to get some voters excited. I doubt many people will be bothered.

"Whats that? Oh, its one of those cans again. Now where's the remote..."

I asked, back on page 2...

I wonder how much of Kaliningrad they have petitioned Moscow to return.

Of course, the CDU is only really looking for compensation not land. But if the initiative is to have any credibility, Berlin has to send a rather hefty demand to Moscow too.