Thread: IRA supporters disrupt Armed Forces Day Parade in Glasgow

Originally Posted by afcass

Stratchclyde Police are a waste of skin. They are very good at treating football fans like s***, and hiding away from where the real criminals are. I work near Possil, and a few weeks ago I saw a used needle lying in the gutter, about 60 feet from the police station. The place is riddled with crime, drugs and gangsters and what do they do? Hee-haw.

I'm from a mixed family of catholic and protestant background, and don't have a particular axe to grind as regards religion, but I detest bigotry. There is a saying about it, that each lot is as bad is the other, and they are two cheeks of the same arse. To me if you put money in a bucket to support the IRA or the UVF you are the same as those who fund AQ. It beats me how these people can justify their actions, but its bred into many of them from birth. Unfortunately Glasgow (and West Central Scotland)is full of these vermin, and many occupy high office, so there's little chance of rooting them out.
I notice Jim Murphy had to get his bit in about being on the end of abuse for being catholic. Why was that relevant?

Good to see so many older veterans there today, and it was good to hear the crowd drown out the noise of all the protesters with applause when they realised what was going on.

Agree'd with most of your post , mainly the later part, we will never get rid of this vermin & the Snr Strathclyde Police know this & we will hear the same thing year in year out no matter what during the marching season or just on Armed Forces day

It's just Glasgow's Luton at the end of the day, you'll always get the hardcore secterian followers from both sides of the fence intent in causing trouble & the Police are fully aware of this, the older sweats/veterans are too long in the teeth to care as they've seen it all before & could'nt care less

I suggest the Police would have been just as frustrated as the pi$$ed off crowd in light of these arrogant, pigheaded idiots,

When you give those fenian cuntz freedom of speech they will preach hatred. This is what they do best. The next thing will be British Soldiers verbally attacked by extremists, but as we all know this has already happened. Blair appeased terrorists, they are walking the streets today expressing their "human rights protests" when in reality most of them are evil common criminals. Incitement to hatred should be a criminal offence, but who am I to judge. I will leave that job to Cherie the slag who is married to our ex Prime Minister

After the Luton disgrace I wrote to their Chief Constable outraged that they had allowed a protest (that would clearly provoke a Breach of the Peace) go ahead. This is the reply I got.

Dear XXXX,

Thank you for your email concerning the military parade and associated protest in Luton on Tuesday 10th March 2009.

The overriding duties of the police on Tuesday were to ensure the safety of the event participants and the public. The Human Rights Act 1998 gives people certain rights, the relevant ones for this scenario being the right to life, the rights of freedom of assembly and association and the right of freedom of expression. It was the responsibility of the police to uphold those rights by protecting and preserving life and facilitating lawful protest.

Although we acknowledge the protestors clearly caused offence to many, the law does not require anyone holding a protest or meeting to inform or seek permission from the police. The police do not have the power to ban such public meetings. Only in extremis, can the authorities apply to the Home Secretary herself to ban a public gathering on the grounds of public safety or potential major disorder. Any person is entitled to stand in public and make their political opinions known, within the boundaries of law, even if others may find their views objectionable.

With any large scale public gathering with potential for disorder (eg raves, sports events, parades etc) the first priority is always for public safety. If obvious criminal offences are committed, officers will arrest and deal with those, but sometimes overriding public safety factors prevent officers from making an arrest in a large crowd.

In respect of events on Tuesday we are reviewing, as is our normal practice, the evidence (in this case CCTV evidence, our own film evidence and evidence from witnesses) and where offences are revealed – on either side – we will record them and make arrests with a view to prosecution.

As a result of this incident Luton now finds itself in the media spotlight. However, I would emphasise those people involved in the disruption represent a small minority in what was generally a very peaceful crowd. Luton remains a very cohesive town where overall relations between the many diverse communities are good.

Yours sincerely,


Katherine Govier
Assistant Chief Constable

Fecking ECHR - always being misused, rather than applied, as intended, to protect the individual against an oppresive government.

I encourage Arrsers to write to the Police, I will be - although I doubt much will change.

Just like to say that the AFD events Mrs Oldmuso and me went to in Edinburgh and Kelso today were very well attended and went off without a hitch.

I was out in Glasgow a few weeks were a few scooters were present and some skanky bitch was proudly walking about wearing a republican t-shirt done in the Lambretta font with the red white and blue colours done in tri colour instead. Felt like ripping it off her and telling her she wasn't wanted. Made me sick to be a scooterist I just hope she wears it to a rally or a do were a few ex mob or AFSC see her with it on she'll be lynched.
Sadly for most of these muppets the closest they have got to Belfast is buying shite rebel songs outside the Barra's

Sorry scum but never mind chuckyarla your times been.....get a life!

Half of them know nothing about the Irish problem and care less. They just do it to wind up the Orange bigots in the waythat's happened all their livess and just so they can justify their own opinions of themselves. It's like Dennis the Peasant - "Come and see the violence inherent in the system! Help, help, I'm being repressed!".

Fuds, the lot of them.

Last night I wrote letters for publication to the Herald, Sunday Herald and Evening Times, in which I challenged Strathclyde Police to explain why they allowed the pro - IRA march to get so close to George Sq.

Am I just naive in thinking that the police should have prevented the possibilty of any public order offences taking place???

Hang on - public order offences with loads of policemen around -

100% ARREST TO CONVICTION RATE.

Got it now!!

Originally Posted by EgyptianPTInstructor

Last night I wrote letters for publication to the Herald, Sunday Herald and Evening Times, in which I challenged Strathclyde Police to explain why they allowed the pro - IRA march to get so close to George Sq.

Am I just naive in thinking that the police should have prevented the possibilty of any public order offences taking place???

Hang on - public order offences with loads of policemen around -

100% ARREST TO CONVICTION RATE.

Got it now!!

Unfortunately as previously stated in an earlier post the Police can't just lift someone for inciting "Hatred" as the ECHR kicks in & the likes of Liberty & AI & the hangers on attempt to exploit/abuse the system to the fullest extent!

The Law does'nt always see common sense

Another story:
Meanwhile, police have confirmed that arrests were made and one person was injured after trouble flared at the Glasgow event.

Full story & link:
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20090627/...r-dba1618.html

I doubt we'll see the last of these heckling events by mindless, pigheaded & Anti-British Forces Protestor's

What gets me that these individuals who are more than happy chanting "Hatred" towards the Armed Forces at the earliest opportunity but when the Sh$t hits the fan they soon want someone to defend them

No doubt it was the same crowd who were recently complining to the police that the Rangers fans were singing "The famines over why don't you go home" at the Celtic v Rangers match


I'm from Glasgow and from a Catholic Celtic supporting family but this sh1t never reared it's head in our family
Although both football teams bringing ferries in from N.I. for the matches dosen't help to get rid of it

There was a story years ago about the police breaking up the gangs in Glasgow
They had recruited a bunch of hard coppers who gave as good as they got
Story was during the trial the judge kept asking "how did you get those injuries"
"Answer I was beaten by xxxxx"
"After about 20 of these the judge states "who the hell is xxxxx"
"Copper stands up Me Sur"
Maybe a bit more of that wouldn't go amiss

As my grandfather once said about the Glasgow police
"Of course the'yre hard men they beat Hitlers SS do you think they'll take cheek from you"

Originally Posted by beemer007

Originally Posted by EgyptianPTInstructor

Last night I wrote letters for publication to the Herald, Sunday Herald and Evening Times, in which I challenged Strathclyde Police to explain why they allowed the pro - IRA march to get so close to George Sq.

Am I just naive in thinking that the police should have prevented the possibilty of any public order offences taking place???

Hang on - public order offences with loads of policemen around -

100% ARREST TO CONVICTION RATE.

Got it now!!

Unfortunately as previously stated in an earlier post the Police can't just lift someone for inciting "Hatred" as the ECHR kicks in & the likes of Liberty & AI & the hangers on attempt to exploit/abuse the system to the fullest extent!

The Law does'nt always see common sense

Another story:
Meanwhile, police have confirmed that arrests were made and one person was injured after trouble flared at the Glasgow event.

Full story & link:
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20090627/...r-dba1618.html

I doubt we'll see the last of these heckling events by mindless, pigheaded & Anti-British Forces Protestor's

What gets me that these individuals who are more than happy chanting "Hatred" towards the Armed Forces at the earliest opportunity but when the Sh$t hits the fan they soon want someone to defend them

Really? I venture to suggest that, were you stand outside a Mosque shouting things like "Scum!" and "Baby-killers!" Plod would club you like a drunk, horny Canadian on the first day of Baby Seal Season.

It gives me no pleasure to state this but the police, certainly when you reach Command rank, are filled with cowards and weaklings. This has been the case for a long time, but the lower ranks minimised the damage; the majority were hard-working, "real" coppers.

Unfortunately, this is no longer the case. The old fashioned street monster is an endangered species. Far too many coppers are receruited because they tick the right diversity boxes. As a result, Other Ranks are now as useless as the Command Corridor.

Lothian and Borders Police are particularly embarassing. They flew the Gay Pride flag from Force HQ and refused to let Armed Response end a siege during which a woman was raped while two dozen coppers waited outside.

Senior officers of this Farce have admitted thay are more concerned with Diversity than fighting crime...unless, of course, you are a multi-millionaire former head of RBS. In that case, you can expect EIGHTEEN officers to attend when your car and home are vandalised.

They are pathetic, and the sooner they are replaced, or at least augumented, by a new paramilitary force, the safe the streets will be.

Originally Posted by afcass

Try walking round the Barras market of a weekend and you'll see tons of Pro-IRA tat for sale, and more tricolours than you can shake a stick at.
I'm sure there is an office there for some pro-oirish mob there as well, and the pubs there are just active recruiting grounds.
The whole place needs flattened.

Think the rent a mob you're referring to are "Cairde Na hEireann" (http://www.cairde.moonfruit.com/#/welcome/4524010674) who were last in the press after arranging a Bloody Sunday march and then showing up in 70s PIRA-chic Combats and Berets. I think they've a few bands named after various dead PIRA scumbags as well.

Undoubtedly they will have been involved in orchestrating Saturday's disgrace; the disgrace being magnified by the inability of Strathclyde's finest to maintain order.

I wouldn't read particularly much into this incident though; the parade was just an excuse to have a scrap for all involved. Glasgow in sectarian trouble shocker.

Equality & Diversity is full and well educated & promoted through-out the ranks, from Jnr to Snr Officer Command level, I have a family Member you recently Left the Service due to a certain % of incompetence,frustration and Spineless Snr Ranks within his Constabulary (as he was informed the word "Force" was inappropriate amongst other petty things that made his blood boil) and he agree's that the higher up the chain the worse it gets, but thats another conversation for another day.

Lessons of public disorder procedures are still not been learned even after the G20 event for example, and yes I agree with you the "real" hard working copper is in the minority which is a shame but we live in a "sue me" culture that years ago beat coppers had respect, In todays society everyone treads on egg shells in case we offend others, who ever the others maybe, the younger generation are all Barrack Lawyers preaching my HR's etc etc

Why were the Pro IRA/Nationlists allowed so close to provoke such anger on this day, well yet another Question in a letter to the SE or Strathclyde CC would seem a fair request, but we would'nt hold our breath because we know we'd just receive (if were lucky) a Politican's type of reply that would fit in well with the Herald's Editor's weekly public address.

As a group so clearly identified as supportung the IRA, I wonder how many were arrested and charged under s.12 of the Terrorism Act 2000?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2004/ju...d.gerardseenan

Originally Posted by CavalryCaptain

As a group so clearly identified as supportung the IRA, I wonder how many were arrested and charged under s.12 of the Terrorism Act 2000?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2004/ju...d.gerardseenan

'Mary' sounds a right 'wee vision' doesn't she?

As a plastic paddy myself, I'm totally disgusted and embarrassed by these Cnuts. Whoops the C word just slipped out sorry bout that.

Cops should have waded in there Asps tasers and pepper spray flying.