Originally Posted by Markintime

The BNP perfectly fulfils the feckless urge to blame others for their own inertia. I weigh 40 stone and sit all day watching daytime TV whilst claiming obscene amounts of benefit but it is an immigrant's fault that I haven't got Alan Sugar's job (I wouldn't go to work for anything less). I sometimes get off my settee and waddle down to the corner store to get more chocolate to feed my face and ignore the fact it's only open at 7 pm because Mr Patel and his family are willing to work outside of 9-5. I also ignore the fact that I wouldn't be able to claim the huge amount of benefit that I do if we didn't have thousands of people like Mr Patel paying their taxes into the Treasury.
If you took away everyone who might be considered an immigrant (Australians, Kiwis, Irish, Americans, Canadians, Europeans, Africans and Asians) then we wouldn't have enough tax paying working individuals to fund the benefit system and there would be far fewer jobs because there would be far fewer consumers. The economy of Aldershot took a massive hit when the Army pulled out, can you imagine what the UK would be like if everyone who may not be pure British (whatever that is) was evicted?
So why then vote for a party who would work towards making that happen?

I think they only wanted to kick illegals out and rightly so.

This is going to sound like I support the BNP but im neither for or against them. People are sick and tired not being represented by the 2 main party (Liberals are a joke). Labour have shot themselves in the foot. They've pi55ed people off that much that the majority decided not to bother and the rest voted out of spite.

Scousedan nail on the head I think. The sad thing is that MP's seem to forget that they were voted in to represent the people not repress them. Their quite frankly disgusting smugness when they stand in front of a carmera and belittle public opinion thinking they know better. Well sadly it's coming home to bite them in the arrse

Originally Posted by Markintime

The BNP perfectly fulfils the feckless urge to blame others for their own inertia. I weigh 40 stone and sit all day watching daytime TV whilst claiming obscene amounts of benefit but it is an immigrant's fault that I haven't got Alan Sugar's job (I wouldn't go to work for anything less). I sometimes get off my settee and waddle down to the corner store to get more chocolate to feed my face and ignore the fact it's only open at 7 pm because Mr Patel and his family are willing to work outside of 9-5. I also ignore the fact that I wouldn't be able to claim the huge amount of benefit that I do if we didn't have thousands of people like Mr Patel paying their taxes into the Treasury.
If you took away everyone who might be considered an immigrant (Australians, Kiwis, Irish, Americans, Canadians, Europeans, Africans and Asians) then we wouldn't have enough tax paying working individuals to fund the benefit system and there would be far fewer jobs because there would be far fewer consumers. The economy of Aldershot took a massive hit when the Army pulled out, can you imagine what the UK would be like if everyone who may not be pure British (whatever that is) was evicted?
So why then vote for a party who would work towards making that happen?

Seconded.

Have just seen the Facebook status of a Nigerian friend of mine currently working in the UK in Yorkshire. He can't comprehend how well the BNP did as his experiences here have (thankfully) tought him to expect better from the UK.

Originally Posted by scousadan

I think they only wanted to kick illegals out and rightly so.

If they just wanted to remove illegals and failed asylum seekers then I would have no problem with that but I fear their subtext goes much further than that.

This is going to sound like I support the BNP but im neither for or against them. People are sick and tired not being represented by the 2 main party (Liberals are a joke). Labour have shot themselves in the foot. They've pi55ed people off that much that the majority decided not to bother and the rest voted out of spite.

I agree that the main parties, particularly Labour, are failing the electorate and very badly indeed. I don't however see voting in a third party which is rooted in division and hatred will ease our problems. We should make our elected parties work for us and vote them out at the earliest opportunity if they don't. The biggest problem at the moment is that the main parties are courting popularity without a strong political message. They should both set out their road to recovery and allow us to vote on that. What we do know though is that Labour and the Lib Dems subverted democracy when they refused to hold a referendum before signing away British Sovereignty into the three treaties that now make up the European Constitution.

Originally Posted by scousadan

Originally Posted by Markintime

The BNP perfectly fulfils the feckless urge to blame others for their own inertia. I weigh 40 stone and sit all day watching daytime TV whilst claiming obscene amounts of benefit but it is an immigrant's fault that I haven't got Alan Sugar's job (I wouldn't go to work for anything less). I sometimes get off my settee and waddle down to the corner store to get more chocolate to feed my face and ignore the fact it's only open at 7 pm because Mr Patel and his family are willing to work outside of 9-5. I also ignore the fact that I wouldn't be able to claim the huge amount of benefit that I do if we didn't have thousands of people like Mr Patel paying their taxes into the Treasury.
If you took away everyone who might be considered an immigrant (Australians, Kiwis, Irish, Americans, Canadians, Europeans, Africans and Asians) then we wouldn't have enough tax paying working individuals to fund the benefit system and there would be far fewer jobs because there would be far fewer consumers. The economy of Aldershot took a massive hit when the Army pulled out, can you imagine what the UK would be like if everyone who may not be pure British (whatever that is) was evicted?
So why then vote for a party who would work towards making that happen?

I think they only wanted to kick illegals out and rightly so.

This is going to sound like I support the BNP but im neither for or against them. People are sick and tired not being represented by the 2 main party (Liberals are a joke). Labour have shot themselves in the foot. They've pi55ed people off that much that the majority decided not to bother and the rest voted out of spite.

I agree completely. 90% of people who vote for the BNP do so simply because they want to make a statement about uncontrolled immigration. The vast majority of BNP voters are worried about the country and about immigration, but don't agree with the racist elements of the party. As soon as a major party says they will do something about uncontrolled immigration and illegals sponging off the the country, then I predict that the BNP support base will collapse overnight. Sure there will be the usual bunch of neo-nazis, but sweeping all of their supporters under the carpet as hard-right wing faschists is missing the point and trivialising what is a fairly serious mainstream issue.

This is exactly the same as the UKIP vote. Nobody seriously wants them to govern, but they do want to send a message that we are growing tired of EU intervention in our country. This is why I voted for them, as did my father. Hopefully, the next conservative government will sit up and notice this issue and will therefore begin to have euroskeptic policies again. Should this occur, I firmly believe that UKIP will lose almost all of its support.

The politicians have only themselves to blame and hopefully we wont be paying pensions to the ones the public has sacked for failing in their jobs. I despair at the political state of this country and even more when new labour apparatchiks are wheeled out to deride any other party as undemocratic or a vote for hatred. If thats so then why are they legally constituted parties or did they hope that they would split the tory vote?
Labour voters staying at home cant fully explain the massive losses and swing to the right and UKIP.
The inclusive party that declared class war in 97 and wasted many thousands of hours and pounds introducing a hateful bill to ban hunting that will soon be repealed. I would hope that one political party would introduce a new firearms act to re introduce pistol shooting. After all banning them hasnt stopped gun crime but then all legal pistol shooters knew that already!
Politicians, mostly a waste of oxygen!

I laughed out loud when I heard about the "success" of BNP and UKIP followed by the Cons, Labs and Libs bleating about"sad day for democracy", racist, fascist, blah, blah, f.cking blah. I then reverted to screaming at the telly "THEY ONLY GOT IN BECAUSE YOU LOT F.CKED UP!!!!!!!
I always vote Con but went UKIP this time as a protest. Who would I vote for at a General Election? None of this thieving, gutless shower appeals to me so, as they say in Estonia, "F.ck Knows!"

Originally Posted by ugly

The inclusive party that declared class war in 97 and wasted many thousands of hours and pounds introducing a hateful bill to ban hunting that will soon be repealed. I would hope that one political party would introduce a new firearms act to re introduce pistol shooting. After all banning them hasnt stopped gun crime but then all legal pistol shooters knew that already!
Politicians, mostly a waste of oxygen!

I wish, but I'm not going to hold my breath.....I'd settle for a result on the olympic venue right now and see what could come off the back of that.

The suburban and inner city masses that comprise the majority of voters see all firearms as the devils tools. Guns=gangs, not healthy pursuits like hunting or competitive shooting at international level.
Urban foxes and squirrels constitute "wildlife" to a lot of people

Originally Posted by Markintime

We should make our elected parties work for us and vote them out at the earliest opportunity if they don't........

And vote in who???

Originally Posted by oldgoat

Your knowledge of how the EU works is breathtaking.

Thank you.