And as it is, this is what its costing us;

1 OUR MONEY
We pay the EU £40 million/day cash.
The total we have paid so far amounts to over £68 Billion.
It costs us £13.7 million/hour to pay for EU over-regulation etc.
The EU costs an average family of 4 an extra £20/week on their shopping bill.

2 OUR JOBS
2.2 million unemployed in the UK.
Almost 9 in 10 new UK jobs over last 10 years taken by foreign born workers.
1.1 million workers from the EU.
500 million EU residents have legal right to live in the UK.
Heading for the UK; 2 Million desperate Romanians.

3 OUR PARLIAMENT, OUR DEMOCRACY
Over 80% of our laws imposed upon us by the EU.
The EU has imposed over 100,000 laws on the UK.
No EU law imposed upon us can be amended by our MP’s.
Westminster will soon be redundant altogether.
We have virtually lost the use and purpose of our vote.

4 OUR ABILITY TO TRADE
UK trade with the EU on EU terms; a DEFICIT of £382 Billion
UK trade with the rest of the world under EU terms: a PROFIT of £14 Billion

5 OUR RIGHT TO CONTROL OUR OWN ENVIRONMENT
EU and Tony Blair controls on UK CO2 reduction will;
Cost the UK £420 Billion by 2020.
Cost every UK household £16 - £20,000 by 2020.
Shut down UK coal fired power stations, risking power cuts.
Put millions more OAP’s into fuel poverty risking more deaths from hypothermia.

6 OUR CHILDRENS FUTURE
The EU “Pensions Timebomb” is already here! 80 million EU pensioners NOW.
The UK has more money in pensions than the rest of the EU put together.
Germany, France, Italy and Spain have “Bankrupt State Pensions”.
The UK’s pension “pot” is about 66% of UK Gross Domestic Product (GDP)
Germany’s pension pot; 10% of its GDP.
France’s pension pot; 6% of its GDP.
Spain allegedly has NOTHING in its pension pot.
There are NOW 4 people working in the EU for every pensioner in the EU.
There will be only 2 people working for every EU pensioner by 2050.
Future UK generations will be working all their lives to support millions of EU pensioners
WHO WILL PAY FOR YOUR PENSION AND YOUR CHILDREN’S PENSION?

Originally Posted by True2Blue

2 OUR JOBS
2.2 million unemployed in the UK.
Almost 9 in 10 new UK jobs over last 10 years taken by foreign born workers.

Have you got a link because I find that fact a little hard to believe.

Originally Posted by True2Blue

6 OUR CHILDRENS FUTURE
The EU “Pensions Timebomb” is already here! 80 million EU pensioners NOW.
The UK has more money in pensions than the rest of the EU put together.
Germany, France, Italy and Spain have “Bankrupt State Pensions”.
The UK’s pension “pot” is about 66% of UK Gross Domestic Product (GDP)
Germany’s pension pot; 10% of its GDP.
France’s pension pot; 6% of its GDP.
Spain allegedly has NOTHING in its pension pot.
There are NOW 4 people working in the EU for every pensioner in the EU.
There will be only 2 people working for every EU pensioner by 2050.
Future UK generations will be working all their lives to support millions of EU pensioners
WHO WILL PAY FOR YOUR PENSION AND YOUR CHILDREN’S PENSION?

And while we're requesting links, can I have one to the source of this pile of total and utter balls?

Originally Posted by stacker1

Originally Posted by True2Blue

2 OUR JOBS
2.2 million unemployed in the UK.
Almost 9 in 10 new UK jobs over last 10 years taken by foreign born workers.

Have you got a link because I find that fact a little hard to believe.

Here you go stacker;
References
1/3 TaxPayers Alliance website and “Stop the European Rip-Off”, book by David Craig and Matthew
Elliott, published by Random House Books 2009. Also Bruges Group pamphlet, “How much does the European
Union cost Britain?” by Gerard Batten, UKIP MEP.
2 Daily Telegraph, 4mar2008. Scottish Sunday Express, 16May2009.
4 Bruges Group pamphlet, “How much does the European Union cost Britain?” by Gerard Batten, UKIP, MEP.
5 Peter Lilley’s website and his letter to environment secretary Ed Miliband.
6 Website www.kc3.co.uk/~dt/pensions.htm

Originally Posted by Markintime

Asylum seekers are not allowed to work so they can't take our jobs but they do create jobs because someone has to administer them, build the detention centres, man them and keep them supplied.

Those are jobs paid for out of tax money. That means rather than jobs being created, wealth has been redistributed from productive purposes to the unproductive purpose of imprisoning people who won't have actually done anybody any harm.

'Creating jobs' is one of the most abused terms in the English language.

Originally Posted by Sixty

Originally Posted by True2Blue

6 OUR CHILDRENS FUTURE
The EU “Pensions Timebomb” is already here! 80 million EU pensioners NOW.
The UK has more money in pensions than the rest of the EU put together.
Germany, France, Italy and Spain have “Bankrupt State Pensions”.
The UK’s pension “pot” is about 66% of UK Gross Domestic Product (GDP)
Germany’s pension pot; 10% of its GDP.
France’s pension pot; 6% of its GDP.
Spain allegedly has NOTHING in its pension pot.
There are NOW 4 people working in the EU for every pensioner in the EU.
There will be only 2 people working for every EU pensioner by 2050.
Future UK generations will be working all their lives to support millions of EU pensioners
WHO WILL PAY FOR YOUR PENSION AND YOUR CHILDREN’S PENSION?

You have your opinion ole chap and good for you.


And while we're requesting links, can I have one to the source of this pile of total and utter balls?

Not only are Asylum Seekers not allowed to work they are also not allowed to get any benefits, over and above the £60 odd they get to live on. Neither are they allowed to be given a council house or housing benefit.

Cheers. Link seen above. I've only had a cursory glance at it but it seems woefully ignorant in parts to say the least so far and downright dishonest in others (I speak as a pension fund professional in civilian life).

I'll read it in full after dinner.

Originally Posted by Sixty

Cheers. Link seen above. I've only had a cursory glance at it but it seems woefully ignorant in parts to say the least so far and downright dishonest in others (I speak as a pension fund professional in civilian life).

I'll read it in full after dinner.

Then it would be good to have your feed back.

Originally Posted by interestednovice

Originally Posted by Markintime

Asylum seekers are not allowed to work so they can't take our jobs but they do create jobs because someone has to administer them, build the detention centres, man them and keep them supplied.

Those are jobs paid for out of tax money. That means rather than jobs being created, wealth has been redistributed from productive purposes to the unproductive purpose of imprisoning people who won't have actually done anybody any harm.

'Creating jobs' is one of the most abused terms in the English language.

On this forum it has been said that people vote for BNP because Asylum Seekers and immigrants are taking British jobs. I was pointing out that Asylum Seekers cannot legally be employed so they aren't taking any British jobs. The people who are employed to administer Asylum Seekers are British so therefore not only are they not taking our jobs they are actually expanding the number of jobs available to us.