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Discuss BNP Win Their First EU Seat at the Current Affairs, News and Analysis forum within the The Army Rumour Service website; Sinn Fein won their seats years ago. They are 1000% worse....
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    Re: BNP Win Their First EU Seat

    Sinn Fein won their seats years ago. They are 1000% worse.
    You see! This is why birds and CID don't mix.
    You give a bloke a gun and he thinks its a dream come true
    You give a girl one and she knows it doesn't go with a dress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cpunk
    Quote Originally Posted by All_I_Want
    Quote Originally Posted by Ex-Grenadier
    British democracy is under attack. If violent thugs can prevent the BNP from speaking, who will be next?
    Cpunk, you think the above is Blah, blah, blah?
    Someone throws an egg at Nick Griffin? Big deal. He wants to deport black families who have lived here for generations. Which is the bigger threat to British democracy?
    No I think you are missing the point. The egg(s) is/are irrelevent, that they put a stop to free speech with violence is not.

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    I blame the unelected EU for having these elections in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whitecity

    It's there. Posted by FORMER_FYRDMAN and directed specifically towards YOU.
    Found

    Fyrdman said

    1. Introduction of legislation allowing discrimination on the grounds of sex and race.Fascists are not the only ones who use positive discrimination
    2. Off-balance sheet financing (a Mussolini innovation). A Mussilini innovation? And only fascists use it?
    3. Sidelining of the legislature, including deliberately misleading the house.I know I sound like a broken record but . . . .
    4. Politicisation of the Civil Service.Foreign socialist and communist parties also did this
    5. Partial suspension of Habeus Corpus enabling imprisonment without trial and a reduction in the availability of trial by jury.This is not a fascist only trait
    6. Expansion of the criteria under which governmental and other agencies may enter private property without due process of law.Hmmmmm, ever read Solzhenitsyn
    7. Use of the police to intimidate and harass political opponents.Done by all political extremists at both ends of the political scale
    8. Collusion in the use of torture in breach of international law.See 8
    9. Initiation of conflict in possible breach of international law.Were all countries who participated in the Iraq war fascists?

    Your case definately wasn't proven Fyrdman

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    cpunk - Sorry to see you don't like your prejudices disturbed by facts.
    "To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ex-Grenadier
    were prevented from speaking to the media by a gang of thugs who are openly linked to Stalinist-era Communist Party front organisations and the Labour, Conservative and Liberal-Democrat parties.
    That's an interesting partnership you've imagined.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ex-Grenadier

    British democracy is under attack. If violent thugs can prevent the BNP from speaking, who will be next?

    No decent person can allow this dramatic turn of events to pass without protest. Every legal political party
    Do you want protest or not? In one sentence your condemning it and in the next demanding it...... you seem confused?

    Reading this thread I'm amazed when I read of those who did vote for the fascists as a 'protest' vote. Your vote is your authority to govern, one can only assume that some people used their hard won right to vote for a party that they didn't want to represent them in the European Parliament. Seems a little backwards to me?

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    Re: BNP Win Their First EU Seat

    Quote Originally Posted by chieftiff
    Quote Originally Posted by Ex-Grenadier
    were prevented from speaking to the media by a gang of thugs who are openly linked to Stalinist-era Communist Party front organisations and the Labour, Conservative and Liberal-Democrat parties.
    That's an interesting partnership you've imagined.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ex-Grenadier

    British democracy is under attack. If violent thugs can prevent the BNP from speaking, who will be next?

    No decent person can allow this dramatic turn of events to pass without protest. Every legal political party
    Do you want protest or not? In one sentence your condemning it and in the next demanding it...... you seem confused?

    Reading this thread I'm amazed when I read of those who did vote for the fascists as a 'protest' vote. Your vote is your authority to govern, one can only assume that some people used their hard won right to vote for a party that they didn't want to represent them in the European Parliament. Seems a little backwards to me?
    How many times does this have to be said?

    Protest - yes.
    Protest with violence - no.

    Its not rocket science.

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    Very good research on who voted BNP and why on Ch4 site http://www.channel4.com/news/article...nd+why/3200557

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    Re: BNP Win Their First EU Seat

    Quote Originally Posted by All_I_Want
    Quote Originally Posted by Ex-Grenadier
    British democracy is under attack. If violent thugs can prevent the BNP from speaking, who will be next?
    Cpunk, you think the above is Blah, blah, blah?

    Not even accurate blah blah blah

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    Quote Originally Posted by All_I_Want
    How many times does this have to be said?

    Protest - yes.
    Protest with violence - no.

    Its not rocket science.
    Ah..... I see, can't say I saw any violence to be honest just some egg throwing (could have been tomatoes I suppose in that well tried and historically familiar method of protest)

    I do agree however that the whole episode was counter-productive. I suppose that sometimes it just takes a little push for people to be moved far enough about issues they perceive as a threat to their freedom to protest. I thought the whole event more Benny Hill than Stalinist though.

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