Thread: BNP Win Their First EU Seat

Originally Posted by Mr_Fingerz

Ladies and Gents: we appear to be failing to focus on the big picture here.

The BNP are Fascist Thugs. Remind yourself of this fact every day. And then tell all your friends.

They may have 2 seats in the European Parliament (a huge talking shop with no real power) but I'm counting the hours until OLAF start telling us how venal and shoite the incompetent misbegotten retromingent miscreants of the BNP really are.


For the hard of thinking - and, come to that, paid up members of the BNP, translations are available on ceefax.

Take your Fingerz out of you Earz and listen to what people are saying instead of chanting the same old, skinheads, Nazi's, thugs, nonsense.

Originally Posted by MrShanklysboots

Stacker and other BNP apologists.

Sorry - this "its a protest vote" balls doesn't wash.

IF you are voting about immigration / asylum seekers / foreigners at the front of the queue then all you needed to do was vote UKIP. The EU is the reason it is so easy to get in to this country / so easy to transit Europe as an Asylum seeker.

the Policy of open borders has been nothing more than an unmitigated disaster for those charged with keeping borders secure.

If I were an Asylum seeker on my uppers I would head like a bee to honey to the place where benefits were best and healthcare were free. However I could not have done that if I had been stopped at my first interface with Western Europe. I'd have got what i was given.

Also the Policy of not allowing return of illegal immigrants without their original travel documents is a painful one too. Thunk up by the EU and one to which we have signed up.

You're from where? No passport? Not to worry Sir we'll have you home ASAP. What's that? You are from somewhere else now? Well in the spirit of the best gameshows I'm afraid I can only accept your first answer.....

So. Want to deal with immigrants / illegals etc? Get out of the EU. Vote UKIP. But no. It's all the Braaaahhhhnn peepuls fault.

Yes they were voted in (with less votes in the case of one N Griffen). But the people who voted for them are ignorant racists simply for putting the tick next to their box. Simples.

Arrsehole

Typical you're one of these people who lumps every person who votes BNP in the "nazi facist racist evil bastard" catergory. Im all for a debate but branding everyone who votes BNP a racist???

There a legimate party albeit a controversial one and you don't no the reasons why people voted for them.

and no im not a member of BNP or support them for that matter.

Am I the only one thinking that most of the post we have had here should actually be in the NAAFI bar. I thought that this bit was reserved for serious debate and honest exchange of views, but it seems the like of Sixty and Bastard have won the day and the dumbing down process is begining.

Originally Posted by interestednovice

Originally Posted by Markintime

Businesses fail through a lack of customers or the ability to sell sufficient product at a profit to cover costs. If you take 6 million out of the country then local suppliers will lose enormous amounts of business and the treasury will miss huge amounts of revenue.

Yes, but you'd be losing businesses as well as customers, and the treasury would have a smaller population to spend on. There wouldn't necessarily be a drastic imbalance there. About a million UK born people have left the country since Labour came to power. It's not that that collapsed our economy.

People in work pay for those who aren't working or can't work. If you lose business infrastructure then you put people out of work. They in turn need financial support and have less money to spend. A million people may have left this country but there is probably a similar number who have either moved here or moved back here and yes, I agree it isn't that that caused our economic collapse.

Business in Aldershot was decimated by the departure of the Army with shops and pubs closing down wholesale. People who had been employed by the Army in a local capacity were suddenly out of work in a town were there was precious little work in the first place.

Yes, but you aren't looking at opportunity cost. This is Keynsian thinking.
The money not being spent by the Army in Aldershot was spent somewhere else.

Yes it was spent elsewhere but under your proposal the money would not be spent in the UK so our economy would see no benefit from it.

The more people you have in a community the more financially buoyant it is.

If that was true then China would've been wealthier per capita than Hong Kong or Taiwan. Think about it.

China is Communist so that argument hardly holds merit.

Better still look at what happened in Uganda and how it's whole infrastructure was destroyed by expelling most of the professionals from the country, fortunately, Uganda's loss was our gain.

Yes, the loss of skilled people is the problem I pointed out. It's not really much to do with aggregate demand.

Originally Posted by Sixty

Originally Posted by trowel

Am I the only one thinking that most of the post we have had here should actually be in the NAAFI bar. I thought that this bit was reserved for serious debate and honest exchange of views, but it seems the like of Sixty and Bastard have won the day and the dumbing down process is begining.

And I thought the sticky at the top of this thread read thus:

Originally Posted by cpunk

We've tried tolerance but it isn't working. Anyone who thinks that members of the British Army are 'natural' recruits to the BNP has clearly had little contact with the British Army: there is no correlation between racism and a military career.

The best advice that ARRSE can offer is that, if you want to discuss BNP policies, fuck off to a BNP site to do it.

But then what do I know?

Off you go then.

Originally Posted by Flight

If you lot on the left were any good the BNP wouldn't be in power, but the truth hurts
Your all useless and have been caught lacking when it counted.

This is quite clearly untrue and shows a desperate lack of knowledge on the subject....

On the contrary, VanHelsing is spot on.

The Labour (left) vote collapsed. The BNP vote didn't do much at all. The Conservative an UKIP vote (right) held up.

The BNP has 2 MEPs because New Labour has failed its own core supporters. These core supporters had a choice, stay at home, vote BNP or vote UKIP/Conservative. Most chose the former for understandable reasons.

New Labour, ie the left, has failed and let the BNP in.

So what to do about it? New Labour spent the laat 6 months attacking the BNP. It didn't work. They're still at it. It won't work. The LimpDems haven't got a clue, and as Whet points out, are going into a huddle to come up with a plan. Ha! Boy Dave is on the right track, but....

Originally Posted by Mr_Fingerz

Originally Posted by trowel

Originally Posted by Sixty

Originally Posted by trowel

Am I the only one thinking that most of the post we have had here should actually be in the NAAFI bar. I thought that this bit was reserved for serious debate and honest exchange of views, but it seems the like of Sixty and Bastard have won the day and the dumbing down process is begining.

And I thought the sticky at the top of this thread read thus:

Originally Posted by cpunk

We've tried tolerance but it isn't working. Anyone who thinks that members of the British Army are 'natural' recruits to the BNP has clearly had little contact with the British Army: there is no correlation between racism and a military career.

The best advice that ARRSE can offer is that, if you want to discuss BNP policies, fuck off to a BNP site to do it.

But then what do I know?

Off you go then.

I might have missed a meeting, but doesn't Cpunk's post tell all of the BNP's sympathisers - and that appears to mean you Trowel, to do one?

Nobody has been near that place since May21st. I didn't start this off, I merely joined in. Is there also an area for the WRP, CPGB, and the Tooting Popular Front?

Originally Posted by ctauch

seems to be a trend BNP, "Freedom Party" in the Netherlands...

One can only hope that trend appears on this side of the pond :D

You're welcome to them. Most are immigrant scum from an era that they self-define as legitimate immigration. Packing them off to your colony would seem a decent policy.

Just imagine if the Native Indians had a version of the BNP circa 1700.