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    Re: Is Britain now in the hands of a dictator?

    The problem with the electoral system as it stands is that it was never built with any thought to having a lunatic in Downing Street.
    I genuinely believe that Brown has lost the plot. He won't leave because of his messiah complex, nobody ever expected to have a Prime Minister who would refuse to go despite all convention and common sense.
    He now talks of the constitutuional changes he plans to make, frankly that notion terrifies me. There can be nobody on the planet less fit to tinker with the constitution of this country.

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    Re: Is Britain now in the hands of a dictator?

    It is not all that different from what has happened in the past. All parties have been guilty of 'stuffing' the Cabinet with people they want, not what the elctorate want.

    Previously when a PM wanted a particular person he/she (but usually he) was put up in a really safe seat and then into the Cabinet. It was understood by all that the constituency would be 'looked after' by the party and not the incumbent who would concentrate on their Cabinet role.

    All Bliar/Broon have done is shortened the time it takes to get someone into Cabinet. Not that I am supporting this, but is it so different?

    What I would like to see is the system in place at the start of the last century where a person invited into the Cabinet by the PM was obliged to go back to his constituency in a by-election and ask his elctors if they minded him going into cabinet and therefore not have enough time to fully look after their issues. This happened to Churchill who lost his seat when he did this and the party had to find someone to stand down in a safe seat to get him back into Parliament.
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    Re: Is Britain now in the hands of a dictator?

    You will note of course that we cannot 'fire' Lords in an election. One might say that's good drills on his part, until you realise that it matters not, as the Lords who are erm, 'backing' him will not be in a Conservative cabinet in the near future.

    It's been said before - the only way that cnut is leaving No. 10 is in a white, unmarked van, with some very nice chaps in white suits wheeling the gurney.
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    Re: Is Britain now in the hands of a dictator?

    It is because he is a Hoon of the highest order. Apart from that, did he not say he wanted the best people for the job (well it made me laugh) and i don't think there is anything written down to say that it has to be an elected person to take whatever office is available.

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    Re: Is Britain now in the hands of a dictator?

    No, but it does say that whoever is a minister should be answerable to his/her peers (i.e. equals - peers in the wider sense). A minister who proposes legislation should have that legislation scrutinised in the commons and be available in the commons to be questioned.

    The Lords cannot sit in the commons and so are not held to account for their actions. Democratic? I think not - Glenys Kinnock has never been an MP (nor, like her appalling husband, ever had a proper job) and has no experience - apart from milking the Brussels gravy train for all it's worth (like a good old socialist).

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    Re: Is Britain now in the hands of a dictator?

    Now that Glenys is in Gubment, does that open the way for Cherie? What a dreadful thought.
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    Re: Is Britain now in the hands of a dictator?

    No he's an envoy to the Middle East.
    That's the most foul, cruel, and bad-tempered rodent you ever set eyes on!

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    Re: Is Britain now in the hands of a dictator?

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    No he's an envoy to the Middle East.
    ...and constantly occupies a whole floor of the American Colony Hotel at the tax-payers' expense, allegedly...
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    Re: Is Britain now in the hands of a dictator?

    Great stuff.

    Government of the talentless, managed by the non-elected, headed by the mentally challenged and unelectable.
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    Re: Is Britain now in the hands of a dictator?

    Well he certainly wants to dictate what the minions say:

    "If you have ever wondered how it is that all the broadcasters always seem to end up with on-message Labour talking-heads spouting exactly the same drivel after an election, here is why – Labour HQ emails everyone a briefing on “lines to take” before they go on air. The degree of control demanded by New Labour means ambitious MPs can’t be allowed to think up their own answers."

    "Hence we end up with a series of robotic talking heads mouthing the party line. Backbenchers and cabinet ministers alike will all parrot the same form of words regardless of the question asked. If you were watching the news yesterday you will have heard the script. Guido is grateful to a “real socialist” co-conspirator for providing yesterday’s “lines to take”. If you want to see it, Guido has uploaded the dull script..."



    http://docs.google.com/View?id=dgcf77v2_134dt4n2bf3



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    You will of course note that there is no reference to the Labour candidate in St Ives having been beaten by Lord Toby Jugg, Monster Raving Looney Party

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