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**firestarter** · 24-05-2009, 16:50

Originally Posted by the_guru

As a former Officer in the AGC, I'd have been interested to see how he would have dealt with manipulation of the expenses system at a unit where he was the AGC OC. Scary to think that this odious self promoting arsehead was a commissioned officer.

He was ETS as well as being a tosser.Do ETS officers do detachment commander?

**Ord_Sgt** · 24-05-2009, 16:51

Originally Posted by BuggerAll

Originally Posted by gobbyidiot

Joyce is the best practitioner of arselikhan I've ever seen. His head has been burried between the butt-cheeks of the Labour leadership for a decade. Any time they need a tool to come on and defend the indefensible there he is. He must be gutted that all that crawling hasn't done him more good. He probably thinks that moral courage is a pale ale.

Would the real Ashie please stand up! A tool wheeled out to defend the indefensible.

You credit ashie with military service - he hasn't any. Although joyce is something I'm ashamed served, a to$$er who is probably destined to be binned for this.

**uncle_vanya** · 24-05-2009, 17:00

:P A tad disgraceful, yes! A subtle form of Money Laundrering.... Laundering Taxpayers cash through their own bank accounts for little or no effort.

Can I have some please... I've maxed my Credit Cards again.....!!!

**hackle** · 24-05-2009, 18:19

Originally Posted by nigegilb

I did mention to Hackle that Eric Joyce was not highly regarded on arrse, ...

Perhaps I had heard that somewhere, but I do try not to get involved in personalities or party politics, and I simply mentioned that Mr Joyce led the charge in the criticism of last week's Appeal Court ruling in the Pte Jason Smith human rights case.

Commentators: 'No room for human rights in heat of battle'

**nigegilb** · 24-05-2009, 18:35

I guess my point was that I am more inclined to listen to the likes of Mercer, than a man who is regularly placed before media to act as a mouthpiece for the Govt regardless of the issue at hand. I don't suppose it has ever occurred to him to bite the hand that feeds him.

Whatever Joyce said on the subject, I would instantly discount it.

**Victorian_Major** · 25-05-2009, 14:53

Originally Posted by hackle

Originally Posted by nigegilb

I did mention to Hackle that Eric Joyce was not highly regarded on arrse, ...

Perhaps I had heard that somewhere, but I do try not to get involved in personalities or party politics, and I simply mentioned that Mr Joyce led the charge in the criticism of last week's Appeal Court ruling in the Pte Jason Smith human rights case.

Commentators: 'No room for human rights in heat of battle'

If he led the charge then the vanguard was crap on Radio 4. The Today Programme found some implausible squeaky-voiced ambulance-chasing lawyer to put the case for human rights on the battlefield. She was terrible, but she held the argument because, well, Joyce was worse.

I'm afraid he's hardly a Forces stalwart, but a pisspoor rent-a-gob... I agree with nigegilb; whatever comes out of his mouth can be discounted.

**hackle** · 25-05-2009, 15:56

Originally Posted by Victorian_Major

Originally Posted by hackle

Originally Posted by nigegilb

I did mention to Hackle that Eric Joyce was not highly regarded on arrse, ...

Perhaps I had heard that somewhere, but I do try not to get involved in personalities or party politics, and I simply mentioned that Mr Joyce led the charge in the criticism of last week's Appeal Court ruling in the Pte Jason Smith human rights case.

Commentators: 'No room for human rights in heat of battle'

If he led the charge then the vanguard was crap on Radio 4. The Today Programme found some implausible squeaky-voiced ambulance-chasing lawyer to put the case for human rights on the battlefield. She was terrible, but she held the argument because, well, Joyce was worse.

I'm afraid he's hardly a Forces stalwart, but a pisspoor rent-a-gob... I agree with nigegilb; whatever comes out of his mouth can be discounted.

;) And you must have noticed from the "MoD loses human rights case" discussion that I am firmly on the side of the squeaky voiced one - aka 'female'.

It was in fact Jocelyn Cockburn the Smith family's solicitor; seems to me that their legal team have done bloody well so far in this hard fought case.

**western** · 25-05-2009, 16:09

I, for one, thimk this is a nonsense argument.

Every soldier has the right to believe that he is going into combat on the best possible terms. All the HRA is seeking to achieve is tha the generations of w4nkers who throw their lives away are held to account.