Thread: Major Eric Joyce MP

Originally Posted by nigegilb

Erm, Conservative gain??

In Falkirk?

Not a hope in hell - they would vote for an Octupus as long as it was a Labour Octupus!

"When first approached, Mr Joyce said he could not recall whether he or his wife owned the Croydon house. Nor could he recall whether he had paid capital gains tax on it."

I often make the same mistake - "I'm sure I had a flat around here!"

He is a Grade A cnut - oh and I like this " I may have shafted myself". That is Labour speak for " I am a thieving cnut who has just been caught".

The thing that always gets me, you're an MP, you are meant to represent your constituents, yet this man seems to have everything set in the South East of England, yet represents a constituency that is in the centre of Scotland, he even rents out his flat in Falkirk so i doubt he does many visits.

How exactly can you represent the people if you're not part of that community, let alone just up there for flying visits, this is one thing i'm hoping gets changed, if you represent an area of the UK, then you live there and you are accessable to the people of that area, i used to be up in that area and it's not an affluent area either, how the hell they could vote in someone like this is beyond me, well maybe not as usual people seem to vote for the party (labour) without even caring about the person they're putting into parliament.

Jees, I actually thought he was a South East MP, hence my Conservative Gain comment.

Erm, SNP Gain?

Plus, Inland Revenue, even bigger gain?

Originally Posted by Argee2007

How exactly can you represent the people if you're not part of that community, let alone just up there for flying visits, this is one thing i'm hoping gets changed, if you represent an area of the UK, then you live there and you are accessable to the people of that area, i used to be up in that area and it's not an affluent area either, how the hell they could vote in someone like this is beyond me, well maybe not as usual people seem to vote for the party (labour) without even caring about the person they're putting into parliament.

Both R_M above and myself know the constituency fairly well: Joyce was inflicted on them thus:

Dennis Canavan was the previous MP for Falkirk West (as was) and campaigned for his entire political life for a Scottish Parliament. When one came about, he put his name forward but was deemed not sufficiently loyal (read Blairite) to be a candidate, so he thought about it for precisely three seconds and stood as an independent.

Unfortunately for New Labour, he went on to secure the highest majority in Scotland and beat the official Labour candidate. D’oh!

The result was that he stood down from Westminster and the toady Joyce (with no constituency connections whatsoever) was parachuted in and the aforementioned ‘Octopus’ tendency mentioned up there ^ kicked in and et voila; a perfect lobby sheep was in place rather than the more independently minded Canavan (who was a local teacher and lived in Denny).

New Labour in action!

Joyce has always been a queue jumper. I have the dubious honour of putting him to the back of the school dinner queue when he tried to jump it!

Ashie, you got the day off today?

Originally Posted by Argee2007

how the hell they could vote in someone like this is beyond me, well maybe not as usual people seem to vote for the party (labour) without even caring about the person they're putting into parliament.

Quite easily,you said it yourself.......... they vote as their families have always done regardless of who is standing for Labour.
Thankfully he is not my MP but being in the neighbouring constituency I have Michael Connarty who it seems is no better when it comes to claiming expences.

Roy Hattersley once described Eric Joyce as a embarrassing sycophant..............Nuff said

As a former Officer in the AGC, I'd have been interested to see how he would have dealt with manipulation of the expenses system at a unit where he was the AGC OC. Scary to think that this odious self promoting arsehead was a commissioned officer.

Originally Posted by Sixty

Originally Posted by Argee2007

How exactly can you represent the people if you're not part of that community, let alone just up there for flying visits, this is one thing i'm hoping gets changed, if you represent an area of the UK, then you live there and you are accessable to the people of that area, i used to be up in that area and it's not an affluent area either, how the hell they could vote in someone like this is beyond me, well maybe not as usual people seem to vote for the party (labour) without even caring about the person they're putting into parliament.

Both R_M above and myself know the constituency fairly well: Joyce was inflicted on them thus:

Dennis Canavan was the previous MP for Falkirk West (as was) and campaigned for his entire political life for a Scottish Parliament. When one came about, he put his name forward but was deemed not sufficiently loyal (read Blairite) to be a candidate, so he thought about it for precisely three seconds and stood as an independent.

Unfortunately for New Labour, he went on to secure the highest majority in Scotland and beat the official Labour candidate. D’oh!

The result was that he stood down from Westminster and the toady Joyce (with no constituency connections whatsoever) was parachuted in and the aforementioned ‘Octopus’ tendency mentioned up there ^ kicked in and et voila; a perfect lobby sheep was in place rather than the more independently minded Canavan (who was a local teacher and lived in Denny).

New Labour in action!

It's something we're seeing more and more, people being 'parachuted' into safe seats because of who they back in parliament, the actual constituency means nothing and at most gets run by the party backers.

It's the most depressing thing about politics these days, for a lot of the country there is no representation for them in parliament because their local MP has no ties to the area and in their parliamentary life they deal more with party issues than local issues.

I think the whole thing needs changing, thankfully last week Labour got a kick in the teeth when they tried to parachute that 22 year old girl just out of university who's daddy was friends with Mandelson, harman and others, they tried everything they could but thankfully failed, and someone who had lived and worked in the constituency for longer than this girls been alive got the nomination. Again the sad thing is that even labour backers said this girl will just get moved on to another area and nominated again until they can get her in.

Joyce is the best practitioner of arselikhan I've ever seen. His head has been burried between the butt-cheeks of the Labour leadership for a decade. Any time they need a tool to come on and defend the indefensible there he is. He must be gutted that all that crawling hasn't done him more good. He probably thinks that moral courage is a pale ale.

Originally Posted by Argee2007

It's something we're seeing more and more, people being 'parachuted' into safe seats because of who they back in parliament, the actual constituency means nothing and at most gets run by the party backers.

Something tells me Labour isn't going to have that many safe seats come the next general election.

Originally Posted by Sixty

Originally Posted by Argee2007

How exactly can you represent the people if you're not part of that community, let alone just up there for flying visits, this is one thing i'm hoping gets changed, if you represent an area of the UK, then you live there and you are accessable to the people of that area, i used to be up in that area and it's not an affluent area either, how the hell they could vote in someone like this is beyond me, well maybe not as usual people seem to vote for the party (labour) without even caring about the person they're putting into parliament.

Both R_M above and myself know the constituency fairly well: Joyce was inflicted on them thus:

Dennis Canavan was the previous MP for Falkirk West (as was) and campaigned for his entire political life for a Scottish Parliament. When one came about, he put his name forward but was deemed not sufficiently loyal (read Blairite) to be a candidate, so he thought about it for precisely three seconds and stood as an independent.

Unfortunately for New Labour, he went on to secure the highest majority in Scotland and beat the official Labour candidate. D’oh!

The result was that he stood down from Westminster and the toady Joyce (with no constituency connections whatsoever) was parachuted in and the aforementioned ‘Octopus’ tendency mentioned up there ^ kicked in and et voila; a perfect lobby sheep was in place rather than the more independently minded Canavan (who was a local teacher and lived in Denny).

New Labour in action!

Dennis the Menace was my Maths teacher - he told me stop lolling about on my desk

Dennis - "You're no in the Officers Mess yet R-M!" :D

R-M - "When I am and the Revolution comes you'll be one of the first against the wall!"

Dennis was definitely NOT a Blairite (FFS the man was a Socialist!!!!!) and DID represent his Constituency. I didn't like his politics but I did admire him, as did many local people. Joyce on the other hand is an odious cnut and I hope the locals get rid of the w@anker a.s.p.

As ever Old Holborn is taking a novel approach to the issue of MP's defrauding the taxpayer.

I wonder if Mr Joyce is going to make it unto his list?

It's mind numbingly embarrassing that nothing seems to happen to this type of theiving turd!
It's so bloody obvious, "Ooops, forgot about that house! Oh well, never mind..."

FFS, does nobody in charge of "whatever" give a shite and has nobody got any honour or integrity left in government

Sorry, being an idiotic mong, (as usual). We all already know the answer to that one...

Originally Posted by gobbyidiot

Joyce is the best practitioner of arselikhan I've ever seen. His head has been burried between the butt-cheeks of the Labour leadership for a decade. Any time they need a tool to come on and defend the indefensible there he is. He must be gutted that all that crawling hasn't done him more good. He probably thinks that moral courage is a pale ale.

Would the real Ashie please stand up! A tool wheeled out to defend the indefensible.