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What medal is this?????

Discussion in 'Medals' started by daywalker, Aug 24, 2009.

  1. blobmeister
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    blobmeister Clanker MiA (Donor)

    Taken from JSP 761:

    a. The Victoria Cross and the George Cross

    (1) Victoria Cross (VC)
    (2) George Cross (GC)

    b. United Kingdom Orders2

    (1) Knight of the Garter (KG)
    (2) Knight of the Thistle (KT)
    (3) Knight/Dame Grand Cross of the Order of the Bath (GCB)
    (4) Member of the Order of Merit (OM)
    (5) Knight/Dame Grand Cross of the Order of St Michael and St
    George (GCMG)
    (6) Knight/Dame Grand Cross of the Royal Victorian Order (GCVO)
    (7) Knight/Dame Grand Cross of the Order of the British Empire (GBE)
    (8) Companion of Honour (CH)
    (9) Knight/Dame Commander of the Order of the Bath (KCB/DCB)
    (10) Knight/Dame Commander of the Order of St Michael and St George (KCMG/DCMG)
    (11) Knight/Dame Commander of the Royal Victorian Order
    (KCVO/DCVO)
    (12) Knight/Dame Commander of the Order of the British Empire
    (KBE/DBE)
    (13) Companion of the Order of the Bath (CB)
    (14) Companion of the Order of St Michael and St George (CMG)
    (15) Commander of the Royal Victorian Order (CVO)
    (16) Commander of the Order of the British Empire (CBE)
    (17) Companion of the Distinguished Service Order (DSO)
    (18) Lieutenant of the Royal Victorian Order (LVO)
    (19) Officer of the Order of the British Empire (OBE)
    (20) Member of the Royal Victorian Order (MVO)
    (21) Member of the Order of the British Empire (MBE)

    c. United Kingdom Decorations

    (1) Conspicuous Gallantry Cross (CGC)
    (2) Royal Red Cross, First Class (Member) (RRC)
    (3) Distinguished Service Cross (DSC)
    (4) Military Cross (MC)
    (5) Distinguished Flying Cross (DFC)
    (6) Air Force Cross (AFC)
    (7) Royal Red Cross, Second Class (Associate) (ARRC)

    d. Order of St John (all classes)1

    e. United Kingdom Medals for Gallantry and for Distinguished Service

    (1) Distinguished Conduct Medal (DCM)3
    (2) Conspicuous Gallantry Medal (CGM)3
    (3) Conspicuous Gallantry Medal (Flying) (CGM)3
    (4) George Medal (GM)
    (5) Distinguished Service Medal (DSM)3
    (6) Military Medal (MM)3
    (7) Air Force Medal (AFM)3
    (8) Queen’s Gallantry Medal (QGM)
    (9) Royal Victorian Medal (RVM)
    (10) British Empire Medal (BEM)4
    (11) Queen’s Volunteer Reserves Medal

    f. United Kingdom Operational Service Medals, United Nations Medals and Medals of other recognised International Organisations. Worn in order of date of award.

    g. Coronation and Jubilee Medals. Worn in order of date of award.

    h. Long Service and Efficiency Awards

    (1) Meritorious Service Medal
    (2) Accumulated Campaign Service Medal
    (3) Regular Forces Long Service and Good Conduct Medals:
    (i) Medal for Long Service and Good Conduct (Military)
    (ii) Naval Long Service and Good Conduct Medal
    (iii) Royal Air Force Long Service and Good Conduct Medal
    (iv) Long Service and Good Conduct (Ulster Defence Regiment) [discontinued]
    (4) Volunteer Reserves Long and Efficient Service Awards:
    (i) Army Emergency Reserve Decoration (ERD)5
    (ii) Efficiency Decoration (Territorial) (TD)6 7
    (iii) Efficiency Medal (Territorial)7
    (iv) Royal Naval Reserve Officers’ Decoration (RD)6 7
    (v) Royal Naval Reserve Long Service and Good Conduct Medal7
    (vi) Royal Fleet Reserve Long Service and Good Conduct Medal8
    (vii) Royal Naval Auxiliary Service Medal9
    (viii) Air Efficiency Award (AE)7 10
    (ix) Volunteer Reserves Service Medal
    (x) Ulster Defence Regiment Medal (UD)10 11
    (xi) Northern Ireland Home Service Medal
    (5) Queen’s Medals for Champion Shots
    (6) Cadet Forces Medal
    (7) Rhodesia Medal

    i. Commonwealth Orders, Decorations and Medals Instituted by The Sovereign. Worn in order of date of award.

    j. Commonwealth Orders, Decorations and Medals instituted since 1949 otherwise than by the Sovereign (including those of the States of Malaysia and the State of Brunei). Worn in order of date of award.
    k. Foreign Orders. If approved for wear, worn in order of date of award.
    l. Foreign Decorations. If approved for wear, worn in order of date of award.
    m. Foreign Medals. If approved for wear, worn in order of date of award.
  2. Grizzly_Mick
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    Not saying I agree with it (a couple of right throbbers got them). Been giving them out for a fair few years now and until the monarchy is gone they will continue to be dished out by HM. :|
  3. blobmeister
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    I know one of the guys who received the RVO medal (MVO title) he was the CSM for the Queen Mum (now a Capt in our mob, he and the Officer at the time got them, the lads got the RVM)
  4. Tawahi-50
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    Seems fair enough, G-M

    The Guardsmen who formed the bearer party at Churchill's funeral were awarded BEMs
    Contrary to what a good few people might think, they were well deserved.
  5. We could go on forever here mate, so your admission that you were harsh"I'll admit that I was harsh in my first post in response to you", I will accept, and ok, my reaction was a bit OTT due to the reading of your text in the opposite tone to which it was typed.

    "an inability to admit you might just be wrong"
    I never said that I could'nt be wrong, my final line said that it was a tricky one and perhaps needed the Medal office to sort out, that in its self is an admission that I may be wrong.

    Your retraction about my service "I will retract the part I said about you never having served." also accepted, although in hindsight for you, a stupid remark to make dont you think?

    We'll leave it at that mate and both learn, dont you think :thumright:

    Arte Et Marte
  6. tattybadger
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    What made them deserving of a medal?
  7. CAARPS
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    Sorry to disagree with you mate, there is no clarification required.

    For those that are serving it is simply a matter of reading JSP 761 and not listening to ‘Knobby know it all’ at the bar or people spouting FACTS on certain Rumour web sites.

    For those ‘Knobbys’ that are not serving, they will continue to trawl the web looking for information to look big and clever or take their FACTS from certain Rumour sites or even worse Wikipedia (a user edited encyclopedia 8O )

    Simple really :D :D
  8. ugly
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    Didnt you see the size of him? He was mahoosive, I wouldnt have wanted to carry that sort of weight!
  9. tattybadger
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  10. StickyEnd
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    Why not? I got mine for just doing my job. I see no reason that going where you are told deserves medals but carrying a coffin doesn't.
  11. Tawahi-50
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    True, Ugly, but it gets worse.

    The coffin was lead-lined.
    The ceremony lasted most of the day-ending of course in that most un-negotiable of a cemetery at Blaydon.
    The coffin had to be loaded and unloaded on a Thames lighter on route to Waterloo Station. No easy task.
    And taken up, and perhaps worse of all that day, taken down the steps of St Pauls. It very nearly came a cropper there and the OIC of the party had to intervene and give assistance The consequences of them failing in front of a world wide television audience just doesn't bear thinking about!

    No doubt in my mind about the outstanding performance of the bearer party. I wonder if their backs suffered in later life?
  12. tattybadger
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    I assume that you refer to your campaign medals?

    I suppose it doesn't matter if we live in a society where baubles and rewards are handed out for simply doing one's job - it demeans the award and makes them totally valueless. Arguably Campaign medals are the same - they are awarded for doing your job. But there is something else about campaign medals - they recognise the fact that you have been on operations and have, therefore, had the gumption to volunteer for a job which may ask you to do things that the vast majority of people never would do.

    I would rather see medals that recognise achievement in whatever form, than medals that have absolutely no value or meaning (I would place campaign medals in the fomer category). I regard the latter category as valueless, meaningless and pointless and I put medals like Jubilee medals and RVOs and baubles in that box (along with MBEs for services to Lollypoping kids across roads etc).

    Yes - I have got the QJM mounted and I'm a hypocrite.
  13. ugly
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    ugly Clanker Moderator

    On this line, a lot of people got gongs for far less deserving deeds such as political donations!
  14. DarkBlueLoggie
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    While I agree JSP 761 makes absolute sense and that's the way I have always thought the system worked, the .gov reference and historical precedence (eg WW2) would seem to indicate otherwise. I'm more than happy that they continue to be mounted in order of award, but there does appear to be some ambiguity between government departments!

    Edited to add - that made me sound big headed - as if I had any bearing on how medals are mounted!
  15. GreenSlime
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    JSP 761 is our authority, whether RN, Army or RAF. Referring to Campaign medals (the paras 2-6 mentioned below) it says:

    "The medals in paragraphs 2-6 above are worn in the order in which the recipient qualified for them."

    I agree that the FCO reference can be read either way - but what do you expect from the FCO?
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