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Following Scousie"G" comments on moving to Australia, I thought I might make some comments on the general migration issue.
Firstly, despite the rumours, migrating to Australia isn't as hard as you might think. If you are determined, you will make it. It might involve some effort and cost, but you stand a very good chance of making it.
There is a pretty constant list of skills under the skilled migration categories. If you can prove you have those skills you will get on the list of candidates.
1. SOL:
The first important list is the SOL - Skilled Occupation List. This list lets you work ANYWHERE in Australia.
http://www.immi.gov.au/Work/Pages/skilled-occupations-lists/sol.aspx
This includes the obvious like "Obstetrician and Gynaecologist". But it also includes less obvious trades like "Drainer", "Glazier", "Wall and Floor Tiler" and "Fibrous Plasterer ". With the lack of apprenticeships these days, you only have to convince a Trades Assessor that you know what you are doing and have been doing it for a while to get in.
Now its not for me to suggest any fraudulent skulduggery here - even though its being done on a massive scale from the Indian Subcontinent. But if you had a mate who you helped out with a bit of plastering or glazing at weekends, and he wrote a nice letter that implied that you had been a full time highly experienced workman for 3 years........
2. CSOL
The Consolidated Sponsored Occupation List covers occupations that are state sponsored - you can only work in the state that sponsors you. (NOTE - this isn't enforced and many people just move to Sydney after they arrive)
http://www.immi.gov.au/Work/Pages/skilled-occupations-lists/csol.aspx
This list is MUCH more comprehensive and full of weird and wacky occupations. Everything from Welfare Centre Manager to "Picture Framer". Seriously, picture framer is on the list. how hard can it be to do that?
Others include "Make Up Artist", "Ambulance Officer", "Driving Instructor", "Real Estate Representative" Even "Defence Force Member – Other Ranks".
3. POINTS:
Neither the SOL or the CSOL get you automatic entry - they get you onto the list, and get you points. Other points come from age, education, and amazingly, speaking English.
You have to get 60 points to get in. that's the target.
The points for your work experience in the SOL/CSOL trades are:
At least three but less than five years (of past 10 years). = 5 points.
At least five but less than eight years (of past 10 years). = 10 points.
At least eight and up to 10 years (of past 10 years). = 15 points.
Age:
Doctorate from an Australian educational institution or other Doctorate of a recognised standard. = 20 points.
At least a Bachelor degree, including a Bachelor degree with Honours or Masters, from an Australian educational institution or other degree of a recognised standard. = 15 points.
Diploma or trade qualification or other qualification completed in Australia, or qualification or award of recognised standard = 10 points.
Language:
So, you worked as a glazer for 3 years. (5 points) You are 30 years old (30 points) you speak perfect English (20 points) And your wife is 30 with good English (5 points) = Welcome to Australia.
Re Education, as I mentioned before, Australia is pretty keen on Recognition of Prior Learning and Recognition of Prior Experience. I knew an English guy who couldn't reach the points (because of his age) without getting education points. He was a finance consultant and had a financial planners certificate and 10 years experience. I put him in touch with a very friendly RPE consultant. Three weeks later he was awarded an Australian Government recognised Diploma in Management. (10 points). He now lives in Canberra.
It CAN be done, and if you are prepared to adopt the Indian process of stretching things and using every loophole, its pretty easy.
Finally, if you are desperate for the military career: The Australian army recruits up to 55. you don't have to be a citizen but you MUST have permanent residency. (Your migration visa using the above points gives you this PR). Even when your visa conditions restrict you to certain states, Federal Law overrules State law and the Defence Force wins. So you could arrive as a skilled Plasterer, apply for the ADF and they will take you irrespective of what your visa says.
Hope this helps some people.
Firstly, despite the rumours, migrating to Australia isn't as hard as you might think. If you are determined, you will make it. It might involve some effort and cost, but you stand a very good chance of making it.
There is a pretty constant list of skills under the skilled migration categories. If you can prove you have those skills you will get on the list of candidates.
1. SOL:
The first important list is the SOL - Skilled Occupation List. This list lets you work ANYWHERE in Australia.
http://www.immi.gov.au/Work/Pages/skilled-occupations-lists/sol.aspx
This includes the obvious like "Obstetrician and Gynaecologist". But it also includes less obvious trades like "Drainer", "Glazier", "Wall and Floor Tiler" and "Fibrous Plasterer ". With the lack of apprenticeships these days, you only have to convince a Trades Assessor that you know what you are doing and have been doing it for a while to get in.
Now its not for me to suggest any fraudulent skulduggery here - even though its being done on a massive scale from the Indian Subcontinent. But if you had a mate who you helped out with a bit of plastering or glazing at weekends, and he wrote a nice letter that implied that you had been a full time highly experienced workman for 3 years........
2. CSOL
The Consolidated Sponsored Occupation List covers occupations that are state sponsored - you can only work in the state that sponsors you. (NOTE - this isn't enforced and many people just move to Sydney after they arrive)
http://www.immi.gov.au/Work/Pages/skilled-occupations-lists/csol.aspx
This list is MUCH more comprehensive and full of weird and wacky occupations. Everything from Welfare Centre Manager to "Picture Framer". Seriously, picture framer is on the list. how hard can it be to do that?
Others include "Make Up Artist", "Ambulance Officer", "Driving Instructor", "Real Estate Representative" Even "Defence Force Member – Other Ranks".
3. POINTS:
Neither the SOL or the CSOL get you automatic entry - they get you onto the list, and get you points. Other points come from age, education, and amazingly, speaking English.
You have to get 60 points to get in. that's the target.
The points for your work experience in the SOL/CSOL trades are:
At least three but less than five years (of past 10 years). = 5 points.
At least five but less than eight years (of past 10 years). = 10 points.
At least eight and up to 10 years (of past 10 years). = 15 points.
Age:
- 18-24 = 25 points,
- 25-32 = 30 points,
- 33-39 = 25 points,
- 40-44 = 15 points.
Doctorate from an Australian educational institution or other Doctorate of a recognised standard. = 20 points.
At least a Bachelor degree, including a Bachelor degree with Honours or Masters, from an Australian educational institution or other degree of a recognised standard. = 15 points.
Diploma or trade qualification or other qualification completed in Australia, or qualification or award of recognised standard = 10 points.
Language:
- Superior English - person has a score of 8 or more in the English Language Testing System (IELTS) in each of the four test components. = 20 points.
- Proficient English - person has a score of 7 or more in the English Language Testing System (IELTS) in each of the four test components. = 10 points.
- Competent English - person has a score of 6 or more in the English Language Testing System (IELTS) in each of the four test components. = 0 points.
So, you worked as a glazer for 3 years. (5 points) You are 30 years old (30 points) you speak perfect English (20 points) And your wife is 30 with good English (5 points) = Welcome to Australia.
Re Education, as I mentioned before, Australia is pretty keen on Recognition of Prior Learning and Recognition of Prior Experience. I knew an English guy who couldn't reach the points (because of his age) without getting education points. He was a finance consultant and had a financial planners certificate and 10 years experience. I put him in touch with a very friendly RPE consultant. Three weeks later he was awarded an Australian Government recognised Diploma in Management. (10 points). He now lives in Canberra.
It CAN be done, and if you are prepared to adopt the Indian process of stretching things and using every loophole, its pretty easy.
Finally, if you are desperate for the military career: The Australian army recruits up to 55. you don't have to be a citizen but you MUST have permanent residency. (Your migration visa using the above points gives you this PR). Even when your visa conditions restrict you to certain states, Federal Law overrules State law and the Defence Force wins. So you could arrive as a skilled Plasterer, apply for the ADF and they will take you irrespective of what your visa says.
Hope this helps some people.