As I said before on another thread, you English don't quite get it. We Jocks know that our team is shite, therefore we have no expectations and consequently no longer get pissed off when knocked out. On the other hand you English get caught up in the whole 1966 bullshit and start believing the media hype from newspapers and TV. The media would have you believe that England can win every tournament they enter. If you'd all just be a tad more realistic, you'd experience a lot less angst and . Personally, I reckon you'd be better off bowing out at the group stage.....you know, before you have to play against a real football team.