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    Calling All Classic Car Owners!

    Right, had enough of this m'larkey, and I'm off to join the real world after 19 years of wearing green. I've decided to make my hobby my profession and aim to start a company providing pre- sale checks for classic cars.

    I just need some help, and some reassurance I'm not going to be living under Vauxhall Bridge in an MFO box in 6 months.

    Therefore, if any of you gentlemen (and ladies) who own, wish to own, or have owned classic cars would like to help me out by visiting the link below and filling out my survey, I'd be much obliged and will even give you a 10% discount on the check when the company launches!

    Many thanks,

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    After years of bumping my gums about all sorts of things on here, I decided to leave, set up my own company and turn my hobby into my employment. I now run Classic Status Report (www.classicstatusreport.com) which provides inspections for classic cars using a network of inspectors across the UK.

    Oh, and I still bump my gums.... never been the same since they got rid of the KF shirt (etc, etc).

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    Re: Calling All Classic Car Owners!

    Best of luck Brandt. I've owned a number of classic cars, and I think there could be a market for what you are thinking of.

    A small suggestion if I may - If I were looking for a particular type of car I (as most classic afficionados do) would expect to view several examples before buying. Might there be an option for reduced rates for increased numbers of assessments?
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    Re: Calling All Classic Car Owners!

    There mate did the survey , just make sure theres a place in the market for you first seen loads of people in essex start classic car establishments of some sort that go bust in first year , but if its ur hobbie and u want it go for it for fcuk sake uv'e worn green u should no that , first year in buissness you always lose a bit just keep that in mind make sure you have the funds mate for ur sake


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    Re: Calling All Classic Car Owners!

    I thought about doing something similar when I lived in the U.S, importing British bikes as the classics go for nearly twice the price they do over here. Good luck, let me know when you get a '57 Plymouth Fury in stock! ; )
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    Re: Calling All Classic Car Owners!

    A site member set up restoring classic cars and he lost a shed load of money. Classic car buyers at the bottom end of the market don't buy at times like this. Please take loads of advice.
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    Re: Calling All Classic Car Owners!

    Will you be doing mobile inspections or will vehicles be brought to you?

    What civilian quals do you have as a vehicle inspector?

    How will you check for originality ie VRN matches chassis, matches block etc?

    How will you be insured against an incorrect valuation/inspection?
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    Re: Calling All Classic Car Owners!

    Quote Originally Posted by anglianmad
    There mate did the survey , just make sure theres a place in the market for you first seen loads of people in essex start classic car establishments of some sort that go bust in first year , but if its ur hobbie and u want it go for it for fcuk sake uv'e worn green u should no that , first year in buissness you always lose a bit just keep that in mind make sure you have the funds mate for ur sake


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    Fuck me, advice from a 17 year old chav, just what we need.

    Seriously don't rely on it for an income, most classic car enthusiasts realise that they're buying a money pit.

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    Re: Calling All Classic Car Owners!

    If I might throw in my two pennies. Most of the old car and bike buffs I know would not use your services as they would back their own judgement as too condition and provenance. This is not in any way trying to decry your idea. But most of these folk tend to be keen on one particular marque and they are usually fully clued up about their particular favourite.

    The term 'Classic' means different things to different people. A classic to me means a pre mid sixties Alvis, Bentley, Bristol, etc. A classic bike would be a Vincent, Brough, G50, 7R,Manx or Velocette. Crap cars and bikes are just that, the passage of time does not improve them, being old is not a virtue in itself.

    There is money to be made, a lot of it in some cases. But do beware, you must know your subject intimately, one person cannot know all there is to be known about all marques. A friend of mine recently sold a motor cycle at a large auction house. This bike was listed as an ex works competition machine. It came from the National Motorcycle Museum after the fire at that establishment. The frame for this bike was I am sure genuine. However, the engine was made up from spares and the crankcase numbers were made to match those of the frame. This mate of mine makes a very good living at this game but he is like a shark and what he doesn't know about his favourite marque could not be printed on a pin head in very large type. This bike sold for the thick end of ten grand, it cost him fifteen hundred to build.

    Where you might score is advising the older person who is hankering after something that was around in their childhood. Most folk get misty eyed about that sort of thing.

    Can I suggest that you look into some sort of insurance cover in case someone pulls the wool over your eyes. If someone bought a vehicle on your say so, and it turned out to be a bit suspect, and your client had spent a shed load of money, you would be liable for the loss. My mate who sold his iffy bike has been caught and he buys high end of the market stuff.

    Having said all that, if you are confident of your own abilities have a go. It's what I do. And remember, if some one offers you a 'barn find' that is too good to be true, it probably is.

    Good luck.

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    Re: Calling All Classic Car Owners!

    As a general rule of thumb, I would recommend not setting up in business to do something you enjoy doing. I've done it twice, and both times it cost me money. If you have that kind of aptitude, maybe work for someone else for a while (in anything loosely connected to your field of interest) and get to know the market, find out where the gaps are and develop a plan to fill them.

    Setting up a company cost me around £1500 all in, plus c. £1k a year for liability insurance, plus the cost of waiting for around 120 days before the first pay cheques clear (assuming that I bill at the end of the first month, and they don't pay for 90 days). Add on min. £600 to get your website up and running, c. £2k a year for accountancy fees, plus phones and computers....IMO it's much better to spread these costs over the first year, while you're learning the market and being paid by someone else, than to have them all at once while Mrs. Brandt starts to worry how you're going to pay the rent.

    And yes, I had a number of what I thought were classics (Triumph Herald, various MG's), but love for the lines overruled any sense regarding their mechanical deficiencies, so I wouldn't have paid anyone to tell me what I already knew but didn't want to acknowledge.
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    Re: Calling All Classic Car Owners!

    Survey done. Not necessarily a good customer recommendation (no money to buy and no where to store a car) but I would use a service like this if I were to buy another classic. I like the cars but I'm not a great mechanic and, despite everything I tell myself before I view, I tend to let lust overcome caution. As a result I've bought one real dog of an MG and a dodgy Alfa (are there any other kind) and have been lucky with another 2 cars. I've looked into using a service like this in the USA when I was investigating buying a yank tank. There's a company that runs it and subcontracts around the States so for $250 you can get a car checked out practically anywhere. The real question, asked above, would be your qualifications and history.

    You might want to offer a sourcing service - rather than checking each car as the buyer finds them you do the search and find the right car for the budget, fully checked. You could charge a bit more for this service (a percentage of the sale price?).
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