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    Re: Poetry? Maybe it isn't all arty farty bull?

    Have we had Housman?

    A "flambeaux" is a flaming torch. So the leaves of the chestnut tree have turned yellow. The scenario is that they are in a pub in summer because they can't work because of the weather.

    A.E. Housman - The Chestnut Casts His Flambeaux

    The chestnut casts his flambeaux, and the flowers
    Stream from the hawthorn on the wind away,
    The doors clap to, the pane is blind with showers.
    Pass me the can, lad; there's an end of May.

    There's one spoilt spring to scant our mortal lot,
    One season ruined of your little store.
    May will be fine next year as like as not:
    But ay, but then we shall be twenty-four.

    We for a certainty are not the first
    Have sat in taverns while the tempest hurled
    Their hopeful plans to emptiness, and cursed
    Whatever brute and blackguard made the world.

    It is in truth iniquity on high
    To cheat our sentenced souls of aught they crave,
    And mar the merriment as you and I
    Fare on our long fool's-errand to the grave.

    Iniquity it is; but pass the can.
    My lad, no pair of kings our mothers bore;
    Our only portion is the estate of man:
    We want the moon, but we shall get no more.

    If here to-day the cloud of thunder lours
    To-morrow it will hie on far behests;
    The flesh will grieve on other bones than ours
    Soon, and the soul will mourn in other breasts.

    The troubles of our proud and angry dust
    Are from eternity, and shall not fail.
    Bear them we can, and if we can we must.
    Shoulder the sky, my lad, and drink your ale.

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    The last stanza is a classic - your troubles are from eternity, and they are not about to go away, but

    "Bear them we can, and if we can we must
    Shoulder the sky, my lad, and drink your ale
    ".

    Jesus, how good is that?

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    i carry your heart with me - e e cummings

    i carry your heart with me (i carry it in my heart)
    i am never without it (anywhere i go you go, my dear; and whatever is done by only me is your doing, my darling)
    i fear
    no fate (for you are my fate, my sweet)
    i want no world (for beautiful you are my world, my true)
    and it's you are whatever a moon has always meant
    and whatever a sun will always sing is you
    here is the deepest secret nobody knows
    (here is the root of the root and the bud of the bud
    and the sky of the sky of a tree called life; which grows
    higher than soul can hope or mind can hide)
    and this is the wonder that's keeping the stars apart
    i carry your heart (i carry it in my heart)
    Storm the Citadel

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    In respect to the previous 9 pages of beautiful poetry, I've deleted a few posts. This is not to say that the offending posts are not poetic, amusing or inaccurate, simply that the NAAFI is a better place for them than this thread.

    The moderator has spoken
    some posts he has taken
    but from all the readers remaining
    there should be no more complaining

    I thank you.

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    Re: Poetry? Maybe it isn't all arty farty bull?

    The life that I have
    Is all that I have
    And the life that I have
    Is yours


    The love that I have
    Of the life that I have
    Is yours and yours and yours


    A sleep I shall have
    A rest I shall have
    Yet death will be but a pause


    For the peace of my years
    In the long green grass
    Will be yours and yours
    And yours

    Leo Marks

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    Re: Poetry? Maybe it isn't all arty farty bull?

    More Housman:

    He would not stay for me, and who can wonder?

    He would not stay for me, and who can wonder?
    He would not stay for me to stand and gaze.
    I shook his hand, and tore my heart in sunder,
    And went with half my life about my ways.

    Into my heart an air that kills

    Into my heart an air that kills
    From yon far country blows:
    What are those blue remembered hills,
    What spires, what farms are those?

    That is the land of lost content,
    I see it shining plain,
    The happy highways where I went
    And cannot come again.


    Here dead lie we because we did not choose

    Here dead lie we because we did not choose
    To live and shame the land from which we sprung.
    Life, to be sure, is nothing much to lose;
    But young men think it is, and we were young.
    Storm the Citadel

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    On a windswept hillide,
    Watching the endless sea,
    A black cloud o'er me,
    While others walk under blue skies.

    This is where the lonely see their fate,
    While the happy see sunshine,
    A darkened heart finds warmth only in the night,
    And shuns the day with it's lies
    Death may be certain, but comms aren't.

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    Has anyone posted this one from John Betjeman, the late and some would say greatest Poet Lauriet:

    Miss J. Hunter Dunn, Miss J. Hunter Dunn,
    Furnish'd and burnish'd by Aldershot sun,
    What strenuous singles we played after tea,
    We in the tournament - you against me!

    Love-thirty, love-forty, oh! weakness of joy,
    The speed of a swallow, the grace of a boy,
    With carefullest carelessness, gaily you won,
    I am weak from your loveliness, Joan Hunter Dunn.

    Miss Joan Hunter Dunn, Miss Joan Hunter Dunn,
    How mad I am, sad I am, glad that you won,
    The warm-handled racket is back in its press,
    But my shock-headed victor, she loves me no less.

    Her father's euonymus shines as we walk,
    And swing past the summer-house, buried in talk,
    And cool the verandah that welcomes us in
    To the six-o'clock news and a lime-juice and gin.

    The scent of the conifers, sound of the bath,
    The view from my bedroom of moss-dappled path,
    As I struggle with double-end evening tie,
    For we dance at the Golf Club, my victor and I.

    On the floor of her bedroom lie blazer and shorts,
    And the cream-coloured walls are be-trophied with sports,
    And westering, questioning settles the sun,
    On your low-leaded window, Miss Joan Hunter Dunn.

    The Hillman is waiting, the light's in the hall,
    The pictures of Egypt are bright on the wall,
    My sweet, I am standing beside the oak stair
    And there on the landing's the light on your hair.

    By roads "not adopted", by woodlanded ways,
    She drove to the club in the late summer haze,
    Into nine-o'clock Camberley, heavy with bells
    And mushroomy, pine-woody, evergreen smells.

    Miss Joan Hunter Dunn, Miss Joan Hunter Dunn,
    I can hear from the car park the dance has begun,
    Oh! Surrey twilight! importunate band!
    Oh! strongly adorable tennis-girl's hand!

    Around us are Rovers and Austins afar,
    Above us the intimate roof of the car,
    And here on my right is the girl of my choice,
    With the tilt of her nose and the chime of her voice.

    And the scent of her wrap, and the words never said,
    And the ominous, ominous dancing ahead.
    We sat in the car park till twenty to one
    And now I'm engaged to Miss Joan Hunter Dunn.
    TURNING and turning in the widening gyre
    The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
    Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
    Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
    The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
    The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
    The best lack all conviction, while the worst
    Are full of passionate intensity

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    Re: Poetry? Maybe it isn't all arty farty bull?

    From the Book of Tourettes Tomes

    ( shamelessly stolen from another site)

    OLD MACDONALD HAD A FARM

    EEII EEII CNUT.
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    If we dont know what we are supposed to be doing , the russians will NEVER find out!

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    Re: Poetry? Maybe it isn't all arty farty bull?

    Thou art an artless, base-court apple-john,
    Beslubb'ring all whose gaze thou looks upon,
    Thou bootless, beatle-headed, bladder bug,
    Churlishly boil-brained, clapper-clawed old slug!
    Thou art so common-kissing, canker-clawed,
    Dissembling, dizzy-eyed and mealy-mawed!
    Thy dankish, dismal-dreaming, clotpoled ways
    Are more errant, in thy unmuzzled daze,
    Than any foot-licked, flea-bit flap-dragon,
    Or gleeking, half-faced, hedge-pigged jothead on
    A paunchy, ill-bred, loutish miscreant -
    Thou ever moldwarped, spleeny sycophant!
    Were thou less blind in thy bummed, venomed spleen,
    Thou wouldst know very well ... it's thee I mean!

    Mary Grace Dembeck

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    'Matilda Who Told Lies, And Was Burned to Death' - Hillaire Belloc

    Matilda told such Dreadful Lies,
    It made one Gasp and Stretch one's Eyes;
    Her Aunt, who, from her Earliest Youth,
    Had kept a Strict Regard for Truth,
    Attempted to Believe Matilda:
    The effort very nearly killed her,
    And would have done so, had not She
    Discovered this Infirmity.

    For once, towards the Close of Day,
    Matilda, growing tired of play,
    And finding she was left alone,
    Went tiptoe to the Telephone
    And summoned the Immediate Aid
    Of London's Noble Fire-Brigade.

    Within an hour the Gallant Band
    Were pouring in on every hand,
    From Putney, Hackney Downs, and Bow
    With Courage high and Hearts aglow
    They galloped, roaring through the Town,
    'Matilda's House is Burning Down!'

    Inspired by British Cheers and Loud
    Proceeding from the Frenzied Crowd,
    They ran their ladders through a score
    Of windows on the Ball Room Floor;
    And took Peculiar Pains to Souse
    The Pictures up and down the House,

    Until Matilda's Aunt succeeded
    In showing them they were not needed;
    And even then she had to pay
    To get the Men to go away! . . . .

    It happened that a few Weeks later
    Her Aunt was off to the Theatre
    To see that Interesting Play
    The Second Mrs Tanqueray.
    She had refused to take her
    Niece To hear this entertaining Piece:
    A Deprivation Just and Wise
    To Punish her for Telling Lies.

    That Night a Fire did break out -
    You should have heard Matilda Shout!
    You should have heard her Scream and Bawl,
    And throw the window up and call
    To People passing in the Street -

    (The rapidly increasing Heat
    Encouraging her to obtain
    Their confidence) - but all in vain!
    For every time She shouted 'Fire!'
    They only answered 'Little Liar'!
    And therefore when her Aunt returned,
    Matilda, and the House, were Burned.
    Storm the Citadel

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    Ah yes, Matilda! Two more such 'Cautionary Tales' favourites were from Harry Graham's Ruthless Rhymes:

    Father heard his children scream
    So he threw them in the stream
    Saying, as he drowned the third,
    "Children should be seen, not heard!"

    and, with a cool(?) nod to the Orange Order:

    Billy, in one of his nice new sashes,
    Fell in the fire and was burnt to ashes;
    Now, although the room grows chilly,
    I haven't the heart to poke poor Billy.
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    Only the actions of the just
    Smell sweet and blossom in the dust

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    I and the public know
    What all schoolchildren learn
    To whom evil is done
    Do evil in return

    WH Auden
    The artist formerly known as Bob_Lawlaw

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    Re: Poetry? Maybe it isn't all arty farty bull?

    Thought I'd try a poem, it's not great but it's my first attempt.

    The Casualty

    Another flight to Sangin,
    To bring back what was lost
    We picked up three times casualties
    A mess of blood and dust

    Panthers claw in full swing
    Rounds hitting everywhere
    We carried them to the Chinook
    It's safer in the air

    Your eyes were still wide open
    Your face a ghostly stare
    In the confusion I didn't notice,
    That your mate was sat right there.

    So I covered what was left
    With a bag made for a bin
    Oh what shame I felt
    When here lies a fallen King.

    We climbed above a contact
    And as the rotors spinned
    I had to grab the bag
    Almost lost it in the wind

    So I held the bag around you
    Your name to me unknown
    But I'm proud I held you brother
    For your final journey home.



    I found out the name of the name of the guy when I went to his vigil in camp bastion, but won't mention it here for obvious reasons.

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    A BOY CALLED ENIS (or DONJI VAKUF)

    The dismal evening whithers and the roseatte dawn breaks through.
    The snow a distant memory, cherished only by the mountains.
    The fields lie fallow, the illusion of green,
    Belied by their bitter harvest, fed with blood.

    While the factory breathes the heady fumes of peace,
    Outside the walls the town lies broken and seethes.
    No gunshots now, no bombs, no words,
    But hate clouds the cafes and makes new mothers weep.

    The hummocks where the grass grows lushest,
    Stand like hoos to ancient Kings,
    But we know the truth,
    We, and the children, and the flies.

    An empty land, cursed by history and passion,
    Is lit up in flames by your shining, hazel eyes.
    An angel born of heaven's triple glory,
    Even as here, God counts his regrets, and dies.

    Copyright - me.

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    Cressage (Christ's Oak)

    It's early Spring at Cressage, the days are warm and bright,
    There's blossom on the blackthorn; wild flowers bloom left and right.
    A white bridge stands, majestic, astride the Severn's flow.
    Old pillboxes keep their vigil, still waiting for the foe.
    The trees and the grass are greening, there's a fresh scent in the air
    And hark, the village children, in the school yard over there........

    God bless this rural England and keep it safe from harm.
    Preserve its ancient beauty and maintain its rustic charm,
    For something deep within me stirs to see it all this way.
    And I would give my life for England before an enemy held sway.
    "Still as Saxon slow in starting. Still as wierdly want to win."

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    Quote Originally Posted by durchy
    Copyright - me.
    I don't think you'll have too many problems in that department.
    Only the actions of the just
    Smell sweet and blossom in the dust

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    Re: Poetry? Maybe it isn't all arty farty bull?

    The Early Purges


    I was six when I first saw kittens drown.
    Dan Taggart pitched them, 'the scraggy wee shits',
    Into a bucket; a frail metal sound,

    Soft paws scraping like mad. But their tiny din
    Was soon soused. They were slung on the snout
    Of the pump and the water pumped in.

    'Sure, isn't it better for them now?' Dan said.
    Like wet gloves they bobbed and shone till he sluiced
    Them out on the dunghill, glossy and dead.

    Suddenly frightened, for days I sadly hung
    Round the yard, watching the three sogged remains
    Turn mealy and crisp as old summer dung

    Until I forgot them. But the fear came back
    When Dan trapped big rats, snared rabbits, shot crows
    Or, with a sickening tug, pulled old hens' necks.

    Still, living displaces false sentiments
    And now, when shrill pups are prodded to drown
    I just shrug, 'Bloody pups'. It makes sense:

    'Prevention of cruelty' talk cuts ice in town
    Where they consider death unnatural
    But on well-run farms pests have to be kept down.



    Seamus Heaney.
    There's no chip on my shoulder. I'll tell you what there is though, three pips and don't you forget it.

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    Re: Poetry? Maybe it isn't all arty farty bull?

    My mate just put me onto this... quality stuff (especially the last line)

    "England! With All Thy Faults I Love Thee Still,"
    (from "beppo")

    "England! with all thy faults I love thee still,"
    I said at Calais, and have not forgot it;
    I like to speak and lucubrate my fill;
    I like to government (but that is not it);
    I like the freedom of the press and quill;
    I like the Habeas Corpus (when we've got it);
    I like a parliamentary debate,
    Particularly, when 'tis not too late;

    I like the taxes, when they're not too many;
    I like a seacoal fire, when not too dear;
    I like a beef-steak, too, as well as any;
    Have no objection to a pot of beer;
    I like the weather, when it is not rainy,
    That is, I like two months of every year.
    And so God save the Regent, Church, and King!
    Which means that I like all and every thing.

    Our standing army, and disbanded seamen,
    Poor's rate, Reform, my own, the nation's dept,
    Our little riots just to show we are free men,
    Our trifling bankcruptcies in the Gazette,
    Our cloudy climate, and our chilly women,
    All these I can forgive, and those forget,
    And greatly venerate our recent glories,
    And wish they were not owing to the Tories.


    George Gordon Lord Byron . 1788-1824

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    SCINTILLATE Roger McGough

    I have outlived
    My youthfulness
    So a quiet life for me

    where once
    I used to
    scintillate

    now I sin
    till ten
    past three
    To peace-teaching lawyer, proctor, or brave
    Reformed or reduced captain, knave,
    Officer, juggler, or justice of peace
    Juror or judge; I touch no fat sow's grease

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    Quote Originally Posted by barrett View Post
    One of my favourite poems of Yeats, along with Easter 1916. It is open to a variety of interpretations. Although no expert on the poet, I tend to think he did not mean the second coming of Christ at all, but instead the end of the Christian era, followed by an age perhaps ruled totally by man and technology.
    As in Summer 1916?
    To peace-teaching lawyer, proctor, or brave
    Reformed or reduced captain, knave,
    Officer, juggler, or justice of peace
    Juror or judge; I touch no fat sow's grease

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