- 16-05-2012, 18:16 #101
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- 16-05-2012, 21:57 #103
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gsfg? and I take it by ad you mean air defence?is madly in love with the Slug and doesnt care who knows it. from the moment she first got me in a headlock and took my lunch money off me, I knew she was the only girl for me.
'Have you had enough? Have you had enough you fucking Moldavian bastard, your Excellency.'
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- 16-05-2012, 22:09 #104
TBH, I am suprised Tom Clancy while writing RSR, didn't go nuclear.
- 16-05-2012, 22:10 #105
Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, because you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup...
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- 16-05-2012, 22:19 #106
I read the first 10 of his books and like many others enjoyed RSR, probably because, with a stretch of the imagination, the plot did have some grounding in the geopolitical situation of that time. From about number 6 to 10 it was going downhill and I never got further than the first 100 pages in Executive Order. By then I'd had enough of Super Ryan and would have happily taken out a contract on him. I've never been back to finish it and it will be a long time before I pick up another of Clancy's books.
- 16-05-2012, 22:19 #107
Back to Clancy, my favourite is Red Storm Rising.
- 16-05-2012, 22:23 #108
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Red Storm Rising. Superbly written, and almost as interesting is the story behind it; it came out of wargaming sessions. IIRC Larry Bond was the technical 'brains' behind the book, Clancy the writer. And a good dose of Hackett's "The Third World War" in it.
Hunt For Red October was quite entertaining, and focussed on the technology and tactics as much as the people. I assume this is the Amiga game referred to earlier (the Amiga didnt have a cassette deck... unless the OP meant C64). Game was quite good, too. And spawed 688 Attack Sub.
As for the rest, I agree... they declined steadily until Bear And Dragon. Red Rabbit was awful, and the ghost written stuff is cack. What I really detested about the later stuff was how Clancy felt the need to include just about every character ever used before.
First used when Mr Clark says to Ryan "I met your father once"... sorry, it just screams "author intrusion" and jolts you out of the book. He screws up royaly with this rubbish tho:
Without Remorse - he is friends with a Coast Guard PO called 'Portagee' Oreza
Portagee turns up in Clear and Present Danger, as Portagee Ortega
Debt of Honor - Clark is on Siapan, when he bumps into Portagee, now back to Oreza
What makes me laugh in Patriot Games is the Robby Jackson character offering check flights to all and sundry, and the poor use of the word processor when the Prince visits the Ryans home:
"The view is marvelous," the Prince observed followed by
"The view is spectacular" His Highness observed (in my book version its actually the same line again)
Admit though, I did enjoy reading them back in the late 80's and early 90's. the literey equivalent of chewing gum for the eyes.
feel much the same about Dale Brown. Flight of the Old Dog was superb, but after two "sequels" it became writing by numbers.
Team Yankee was good, as were the Eric L Harry novels. And its good to see Hackett actually being acknowledged as a reference.There is no question so obviously stupid that it prevents one supposedly intelligent human from asking it of another.
Likewise, there is no human problem that cannot be solved by the correct application of the appropriate quantity of high explosive, the suitable quantity being derived by the Formula P, where P = "plenty"
Nobody ever imagined a bunch of Orcs would steal a database table...
- 16-05-2012, 22:54 #109
Just bought "Locked on" after the sample first couple of chapters available on Kindle, will start it next week and pop done thoughts on here as I go along,
On another track as someone mentioned him above, Just finished Dale Browns " Strike Force" remarkably average, except for the ending that wasn't that good
- 16-05-2012, 23:04 #110
Nothing beats just finishing Red Storm Rising before attachment to the Bundeswehr. Wednesday of week two cue briefing for all German Officer which the German CO comes out of and utters the immortal words - "the wall comes down". Followed by JSPrest recalling the plot of RSR and damn near filling his pants!!!!!