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Discuss SAS & AAC- not a pisstake in Aviation on The Army Rumour Service; I think this post has been answered, the Army Air Corps, Paras and Special Air Service all originated from the same Glider Pilot Origins, the maroon beret was originally GPR then AAC, before being donated ...
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    I think this post has been answered, the Army Air Corps, Paras and Special Air Service all originated from the same Glider Pilot Origins, the maroon beret was originally GPR then AAC, before being donated to the Paras after we found a colour closer to God.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrrandom View Post
    I caught the tail-end of a program the other night, in it they were talking about some SAS & SOE who had been killed during the closing stages of WW2 and the investigation which followed

    something struck me as a little unusual, the grave stones of the SAS soldiers were in a small French graveyard but looked like the white commonwealth war grave headstones on them it had the winged dagger, name, rank and everything you’d expect

    it then went on to state

    SPECIAL AIR SERVICE of ARMY AIR CORP



    was that a French misunderstanding of there role or were the SAS originally part of the AAC
    Just noticed this post and not quite answering your query. The programme you refer to was the afteraction report on 'Op Loyton' a WW2 action in the Voges mountains of southern France. Specifically it was on the team who hunted down the perpetrators of a murder. The graveyard is located in Moussey. Every year the SAS Association with their French colleagues remember the bravery of the townsfolk and the number of young soldiers who were individually murdered following capture in the vicinity of this town.

    As an adjunct, a colleague and I were returning from Munich and stopped off a a large Commonwealth War Graves Cemetary. I can't immediately recall it's name, however, the point being, within, lay 12 graves with similarly engraved headstones. Further investigation through the Association revealed that these lads had also been murdered at Moussey.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glorious Groundie View Post
    the Paras were not the first reinforcements, the Somerset LI who were a parachute roled (but not badged unit) and Lovet Commandos were the first and second on the bridge and neither of them units have the battle honour.

    The paras took all airbourne battle honours, even if units at the battles were other capbadged but were in a glider/para role
    erm nope.......
    All Parachute Bns took on the Parachute Regiment capbadge and maroon beret well before the D-Day landings. I beleive it was intially classed as an attachment in the early days which is why you see the VC winners claimed by both the Paras and their former units even though the guys in question were no longer with their former units when they done the deed.

    Although some Bns had the core of their manpower formed from particular volunteer Bns any formal connections with the former unit was in spirit only as all Parachute Bns were rebadged on completion of formation and came under the Parachute Regiment which itself came under the old AAC.

    You might want to look closer to home in regards to the stealing of Battle Honours considering the modern day AAC pinched the GPR's collection not that long back.

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    With the consent of the GPR...who, incidentally during the founders dinner stated that "they hold the AAC in higher regard than Para Regt when embracing them as a family".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glorious Groundie View Post
    The paras took all airbourne battle honours, even if units at the battles were other capbadged but were in a glider/para role
    Another way to wind Paras up is misspell Airborne........
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    Quote Originally Posted by the_boy_syrup View Post
    Another way to wind Paras up is misspell Airborne........
    Just ask them to spell it. Most will either stick the crayon up their nose or just start swearing.
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    I thought the "I put on a para smock but suddenly I ran out of food and ammo and had to surrender" was a good baiting
    benspoons likes this.
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    Well Col J.F.Rock RE started both The Airborne and then went on to command the GPR.Sappers having a 'crafty fag''.Well I never!

    Quote Originally Posted by sirbhp View Post
    actually if you read your history books they arrived to see two sappers having a crafty fag afor the action started .
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrrandom View Post
    nothing new there, guess I need to reread some books
    mrrandom,
    Basically everything you need to know is on the following link, including the underrated Col Rock;
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    Being ex AAC I had my Father in law (Ex Para) going for months with that one.
    He thought he was being smart when at an airborne forces do, introduces me to one of the old and bold (Who got stabbed through the throat with a bayonet at Arnhem) and says tell this crap hat that the Paras never came under the command of the AAC IN ww2.
    Old boy agrees with me.
    I told them they could keep our maroon berets....................
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