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    AAC Helicopters in Brunei, Early 60s

    Just reading Allan Mallinson's book, "The Making Of The British Army". In the section on the Brunei Confrontation of the early 60s, he states: "By the end of 1964....forty observation and liason helicopters from the Army Air Corps, formed seven years earlier"

    That seems rather a lot. Is he correct?
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    Re: AAC Helicopters in Brunei, Early 60s

    I think he is counting RAF/RN aircraft as in 1964 was still useing the SARO Skeeter, and they only ever had about 75 totall , the Sioux was just coming intu service

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    Re: AAC Helicopters in Brunei, Early 60s

    The Sultan of Brunei is quite well off, attended Sandhurst, has very strong links with the UK, pays for a resident ghurka coy, and AAC sqn.

    Forty helicopters, sounds quite sensible considering what he was protecting.

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    Re: AAC Helicopters in Brunei, Early 60s

    Quote Originally Posted by MightyGem
    Just reading Allan Mallinson's book, "The Making Of The British Army". In the section on the Brunei Confrontation of the early 60s, he states: "By the end of 1964....forty observation and liason helicopters from the Army Air Corps, formed seven years earlier"

    That seems rather a lot. Is he correct?
    It's feasible. By 1964, the Brunei revolt was well over, and the Borneo Confrontation was well underway. It was quite a large front and if the battalion I was with was typical, each would have had two choppers each (ours were called Celer and Audax!)

    I seem to recall AAC having a Wing based in Singapore and I'm sure if that were so, the aircraft in the wing would all have been employed in the Confrontation.

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    Re: AAC Helicopters in Brunei, Early 60s

    The only AAC aircraft in the Smallwars site are DHC Beavers, fixed wing , there might have been AH1 Sioux later in the war but unlikly in 1964 as the AAC only got them about then

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    Re: AAC Helicopters in Brunei, Early 60s

    As the order for the first 50 Sioux was only given to Agusta in March 1964 it is unlikly that there were any in Borneo that year

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    Re: AAC Helicopters in Brunei, Early 60s

    In 339 pages, I would read AAC as (anybody who used helicopters)


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    Re: AAC Helicopters in Brunei, Early 60s

    Quote Originally Posted by tropper66
    The only AAC aircraft in the Smallwars site are DHC Beavers, fixed wing , there might have been AH1 Sioux later in the war but unlikly in 1964 as the AAC only got them about then
    Sycamore were used also. One was lost in Sarawak in 63.

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    Re: AAC Helicopters in Brunei, Early 60s

    Quote Originally Posted by tropper66
    As the order for the first 50 Sioux was only given to Agusta in March 1964 it is unlikly that there were any in Borneo that year
    I can only speak from 1965 onwards but I'm sure any old AAC hand who can remember Major Markham being awarded his decoration (AFC?) for saving Col Brammall's life (and a major British embarrassment!) circa Aug 1965) by his exceptional piloting skills, will remember what aircraft type would likely have been flying.

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    Re: AAC Helicopters in Brunei, Early 60s

    Quote Originally Posted by jinxy
    Quote Originally Posted by tropper66
    The only AAC aircraft in the Smallwars site are DHC Beavers, fixed wing , there might have been AH1 Sioux later in the war but unlikly in 1964 as the AAC only got them about then
    Sycamore were used also. One was lost in Sarawak in 63.
    While searching for crashed Belverdere Sycamore XL822 hit a tree stump and rolled over at Long Mararup in Sarawak

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