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    747 Survives Blast

    Unpressurised 747 fusilage with doors open in bomb blast survival shocker; still able to fly says 'expert':

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/8548021.stm

    Anybody want to tell them what's wrong with their methodology?
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    Re: 747 Survives Blast

    apart from the doors being open and the plane being on the ground you mean?


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    So now the dickheads have told the Terrorists they need larger amount of He to do the job, brilliant
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    Re: 747 Survives Blast

    Quote Originally Posted by theoriginalphantom
    apart from the doors being open and the plan being on the ground you mean?
    Well yeah; the clue was in my 'unpressurised.. with doors open' comment.



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    The full program is on BBC2 at 2000 tonight
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    Re: 747 Survives Blast

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragstrip
    Unpressurised 747 fusilage with doors open in bomb blast survival shocker; still able to fly says 'expert':

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/8548021.stm

    Anybody want to tell them what's wrong with their methodology?
    Now where has relying on unpressurised testing of airframes clearly been shown as a problem before....

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    Re: 747 Survives Blast

    So what they're saying is that is an aircrew ever has reason to suspect that there's a bomb aboard, the IA drills should be to de-pressurise the interior and open all the doors?

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    Re: 747 Survives Blast

    Quote Originally Posted by tropper66
    So now the dickheads have told the Terrorists they need larger amount of He to do the job, brilliant
    Exactly how thick do you think the bad guys are? I spent three years doing a degree in which missile guidance systems were a big part of the syllabus - the top marks in any exam generally went to the students from Iraq, Iran, and Jordan.

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    Re: 747 Survives Blast

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragstrip
    Quote Originally Posted by theoriginalphantom
    apart from the doors being open and the plan being on the ground you mean?
    Well yeah; the clue was in my 'unpressurised.. with doors open' comment.



    ...too much sarcasm? I can never tell.
    Personally not enough sarcasm Dragstrip take it up another notch. But I did giggle at the "logic"(?)
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    Re: 747 Survives Blast

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragstrip
    Quote Originally Posted by theoriginalphantom
    apart from the doors being open and the plan being on the ground you mean?
    Well yeah; the clue was in my 'unpressurised.. with doors open' comment.



    ...too much sarcasm? I can never tell.
    (I replied with an equal amount of sarcasm... the clue is in the signature block..)

    don't forget the lack of other passengers in the aircraft

    and the lack of interior to the aircraft
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    Re: 747 Survives Blast

    The unlucky person/persons all around the bomber would get killed. I thought the windows would of been instantly broke as they are not made of glass.

    Again, not being up a high alt and it being pressurised.

    Boeing 747-400's would normally fly at 30,000 ft - 40,000ft.

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    Re: 747 Survives Blast

    wouldn't the "blast" effect cause damage to the electrical systems and control cabling running underneath the fuselage
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    Re: 747 Survives Blast

    Having just watched the clip, i popped in here to see if there was a discussion.

    Good to see you guys have it covered.

    to sum up; complete crap, and the testers knew it i suspect, but sold their souls for a bit of TV time.

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    It also serves a purpose to reassure passengers of safety fears. All incredibly misleading.
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    Re: 747 Survives Blast

    I caught the last few minutes of this programme where the 'experienced' Air Accident Investigator was saying that he believed the aircraft would survive the explosion and that the pilots would be able to land the a/c.

    I have to say, I was let somewhat unconvinced
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