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**halomonkey** · 26-02-2008, 21:40

Sorry to backtrack a bit but in ref cars and carrying dogs. I have a pet hate of people with hatchbacks carrying their dog in the boot area, especially small hatchbacks. All it takes is a rear end shunt for your dog to be seriously hurt. My father used to drive a Volvo estate and the GSD and jack russell always travelled in the boot area. One day after having been shopping, thankfully without the dogs, the car was hit from behind at a roundabout. On checking the damage, which was quite a serious dent, he then looked at the shopping and packets were burst, tins dented etc etc. We can only imagine what might have happened to the dogs had they been in there and not the shopping. Needless to say since that day the dogs never went in the boot area again , it was back seat for them. When I went on to get my own GSD she too travelled in the back seat, with a seatbelt harness. Although mine wasn't an estate so no choice ;) I now have a chelsea tractor for her as she was struggling to jump into the back seat of a saloon. I open the rear door, put her ramp out, she walks up the ramp, in the back and onto the back seat, I click her harness round the seat belt and both she and I are safe and happy :D

**dog_eatin_ot_chips** · 26-02-2008, 21:43

Buddy the mincing retriever.

**girliebiker** · 26-02-2008, 22:05

Originally Posted by halomonkey

Sorry to backtrack a bit but in ref cars and carrying dogs. I have a pet hate of people with hatchbacks carrying their dog in the boot area, especially small hatchbacks. All it takes is a rear end shunt for your dog to be seriously hurt. My father used to drive a Volvo estate and the GSD and jack russell always travelled in the boot area. One day after having been shopping, thankfully without the dogs, the car was hit from behind at a roundabout. On checking the damage, which was quite a serious dent, he then looked at the shopping and packets were burst, tins dented etc etc. We can only imagine what might have happened to the dogs had they been in there and not the shopping. Needless to say since that day the dogs never went in the boot area again , it was back seat for them. When I went on to get my own GSD she too travelled in the back seat, with a seatbelt harness. Although mine wasn't an estate so no choice ;) I now have a chelsea tractor for her as she was struggling to jump into the back seat of a saloon. I open the rear door, put her ramp out, she walks up the ramp, in the back and onto the back seat, I click her harness round the seat belt and both she and I are safe and happy :D

I do agree but with Ben his legs shake to much for the ramp now (I have to lift his back end up into the boot). With his legs shaking so much he finds it hard to sit up for long periods and he just can't get comfy in the harness, at the moment the boot is the safest place for him.

He tends to lie right back against the rear seats if they are up or right against the front seats if down.

**Dollsteeth** · 26-02-2008, 22:14

So is the general concensus back seat is the safer option for the dog? how much are the dog harnesses and are there any inperticular peeps would recommend?

Thanks again

**scarletto** · 26-02-2008, 22:23

This is a poem i found, when i was putting together an Album for Patch, pretty well sums it up for me, what we did that day.

By heck im showing a soft side here, but he was a fecking great dog :(
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if it should be that I grow weak,
And pain should keep me from my sleep,
Then you must do what must be done,
For this last battle cannot be won

You will be sad, I understand,
Don't let grief then stay your hand,
For this day more than all the rest,
Your love for me must stand the test.

We've had so many happy years,
What is to come can hold no fears,
You'd not want me to suffer so,
The time has come, please let me go,

Take me where my need they'll tend,
And please stay with me until the end,
I know in time that you will see,
The kindness that you did for me,
Although my tail its last has waved,
From pain and suffering I've been saved.

Please do not grieve, it must be you
Who had this painful thing to do,
We've been so close, we three these years,
Don't let your heart hold back it's tears.

**Trip_Wire** · 26-02-2008, 22:30

Here in the USA, the worst dog transport IMHO, are those that transport dogs on the bed of an open pickup truck! They are usually larger dogs.

Some are just loose back there, and some are tied to the truck by their lead. You see them going down the Freeway at speeds of 70 MPH or higher. The dog moving around inside the truck and shifting with each application of breaks, etc.

I refuse to follow behind them, for fear the dog will fall out and into my path, or worse yet come through my windshield.

Some States, have laws prohibiting such transport; however, they are either not enforced, as good as they should be. Sometimes, it is because of the way the law is written, makes it un-enforceable as it is here in Washington State

I shudder every time I see these poor dogs in that situation.

**Double_Duck** · 26-02-2008, 22:32

Labradoodle Pup 3 months old, bloody silly name but lovely temperament dog and since we live near the beach and the downs it encourages the kids to get off their Playstation without complaining to take him for a walk..

**Trip_Wire** · 26-02-2008, 22:33

scarletto:

In the same vain:

http://www.petloss.com/poems/maingrp/rainbowb.htm

http://www.petloss.com/

**TankiesYank** · 26-02-2008, 22:55

Originally Posted by Trip_Wire

My breed of choice is the miniature Bull Terrier. I have white bitch, Bully that is now about 12 years old. I have never had a better dog! Her name is Mya!

The Tankie's been bugging me for an EBT for a few months now; he saw Mya's pic and was immediately reduced to baby-talk.

We're just worried about how it would go if we introduced one to our EP now. I reckon that if they fought for dominance, the EP would lose the physical fight...and probably never recover from the trauma, emotionally. Pointers can be SO sensitive it's pitiful.

**Trip_Wire** · 26-02-2008, 23:29

Originally Posted by TankiesYank

Originally Posted by Trip_Wire

My breed of choice is the miniature Bull Terrier. I have white bitch, Bully that is now about 12 years old. I have never had a better dog! Her name is Mya!

The Tankie's been bugging me for an EBT for a few months now; he saw Mya's pic and was immediately reduced to baby-talk.

We're just worried about how it would go if we introduced one to our EP now. I reckon that if they fought for dominance, the EP would lose the physical fight...and probably never recover from the trauma, emotionally. Pointers can be SO sensitive it's pitiful.

Mya gets along just great with other dogs and our resident rag-doll male cat. She hates other cats that invade our yard though. Bull Terriers can also be very aggressive with other dogs and cats.

As you say they were once bred to fight; however, I think most of that aggressiveness has been bred out of them. It's much like human individuals, it's the individual dog's personality that counts.

One of the best reason's to take one's dog through basic obedience courses IMHO, is that they are exposed to other dogs and/or people and exposed to all the temptations to be a bad dog. I love the breed and when Mya passes I will get another of that breed. It will be a VERY sad day when she passes though, as her loving and sunny disposition will be hard to replace, in fact it never will. ...

Mya getting a Belly rub from Andy the male Rag-Doll cat.: