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**zazabell_012** · 22-10-2009, 11:57

I have never been in the armed forces.

Never in a million years would I ever consider voting for the BNP, they are nazi fascist scum.
Erm, didn't we fight a war against them? 1939-45 ring a bell with anyone? I hope Nick Griffin really comes a cropper on TV back home tonight.

Its great to see the top brass taking a stand against the black shirts...good on them!

**Cpl_ripper** · 22-10-2009, 11:57

No words just BNP =

**Biped** · 22-10-2009, 12:00

Ex-TA, no, I wouldn't. I'd much rather vote for the English Democrats

**Rudie** · 22-10-2009, 12:07

Ex Soldier, would never vote BNP.
Our Fore Fathers fought and died against the Nazis,why on earth would any serving or ex British Soldier want to vote for such an extremist party?

For what it's worth,I have no problem with the banner.

**jimmys_best_mate** · 22-10-2009, 12:09

Serving and I'd go as low as voting Labour before I ever voted Nazi

**canteen_cowboy** · 22-10-2009, 12:13

ex reg

NO never will vote for BNP

and how can they be a legitimate party when you can lose your job for being a member of them?

IMO cant have it both way in a so called democracy.
perosnally would rather they were not recognised as anything.

**DozyBint** · 22-10-2009, 12:14

Originally Posted by Markintime

Originally Posted by Auld-Yin

I notice that the Beeb have dropped a journo from the panel and brought on Bonnie Greer - who just happens to be black. Now who is trying to stir things up?

Firstly the journo refused:

Originally Posted by guardian

The Mail's rightwing columnist Richard Littlejohn was asked to appear alongside Griffin on Question Time, but he refused. He explains why in his column today.

Best case, you monster him and come across as a bully. Worst case, he challenges you to disagree with some of his views, perhaps on something as straightforward as demanding a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty, and you're immediately tarred as guilty by association.

This is the problem with extremist political parties - they deliberately interweave populist ideas and policies into their abhorrent base beliefs. This has a two-fold benefit for such parties: it not only attracts desperate voters who choose not to see the underlying hatred, but it causes mainstream parties and commentators, who would be mad not to agree with at least SOME of their policies (e.g. the popularly demanded referendum on Europe) to deny that they agree with ANY policies and therefore damage their credibility. As I see it, the QT panel this evening should constantly refocus the debate on the hate policies of the BNP as Griffin will not be able to wriggle out of that.

It would be naive to claim that extremist political parties play no part in a nations' political well-being as they do air voter grievances, but this only works if the mainstream political parties pay attention to which policy pledges attract the voters and add them to their own manifestos so that support for the extremist parties is watered down. I don't think that we're at crisis point yet, but the conditions in the UK at this time are ripe for nationalist parties to gain momentum, so to ignore them and their appeal would be foolish.

For the record, I am 100% civvie and I would never vote for the BNP.

**Austen_D** · 22-10-2009, 12:15

Originally Posted by jagman

Originally Posted by bluebells

With 49 votes in and 81% declaring that they would not vote BNP, I am slightly surprised that 19% would consider or would vote BNP.

Would any of the 10 members that have cast their vote like to articulate their reasons for considering supporting the BNP. As a serving solider I would be interested in how the values and standards of the BNP sit with those of the British Army, particularly the tenant of Respect for Others.

Firstly I would like to make it crystal clear before I comment that I am not a soldier (or any other branch of the military) For the puroses of this poll it is an important distinction.

I voted for possibly consider voting for the BNP option.
You asked why so I shall tell you. Purely as a protest vote, as it stands I am undecided who I will vote for come the general election the reasons for which are not pertinent to this thread.
If, as seems likely, I do not feel any of the major parties deserve a vote then I will consider using my vote as a protest against those mainstream parties.
I would be more likely to vote UKIP in those circumstances as the BNP have core policies that I do not believe in (race) but the poll gives clear options and I voted accordingly.

Flame away, I'm a big boy and simply answered the poll options honestly.

Edited to clarify, I do not plan to vote BNP but as already stated I would consider doing so as a protest vote.

Thats what spoiling your ballot is for. Protesting does not have to involve voting racists into power. Vote independent if you want to vote for anyone.

**Rumpelstiltskin** · 22-10-2009, 12:15

Serving TA, no fcuking way would I vote for the BNP.

Incidentally, a goodly proportion of my (smallish, London) unit are black or Asian, including a good sprinkling of (at least culturally) Muslims.

**Bolo-Driller** · 22-10-2009, 12:21

I have just clicked on the link for stolen valour and as someone who doesnt really care who gets in as long as they sort out the mess that is broken Britain, I must say thats the biggest load of old shiite Ive ever seen. Shiite plinky plinky music for the main part and 10 seconds of quotes at the end. When are people going to get a grip on this issue FFS!!

Not a clue who im going to vote for but all this nonsense spouted whenever the letters BNP are mentioned is absolute madness.

I might get in touch with Mcnab and Weston and see how much it will set me back to get them to waffle on about the underfunding, cuts, destruction of proud regiments histories, needless deaths, suspension of the TA and illegal wars that this disgusting Government has led our once great nation into.

The BNP dont speak for all ex /servicemen. But on the same note Simon Weston and Andy McNab dont speak for us all either.