Do you support the BNP?

**Underworld_Guitar_Hero** · 24-10-2009, 17:19

Whether you vote for the policies, the person or as a protest against the big parties. I challenge anyone to vote for someone (Griffin) who thrusts himself into the limelight, fails to prepare or rehearse. Laughs when challenged on serious and truthful questions of race, calls homosexuals "Creepy"and denies the holocaust! Cannot answer the a question from a 17 year old boy and quite frankly gets put on the rack by Jack Straw, seriously!!!!

I thought they went easy on him! Imagine him in front of a panel of squaddies along the split of the vote done today!!

He didnt go on Question Time to win. he went to lose, whinge and wine and garner sympathy and further support for his second rate collection bunch of loney pals.

I am glad we live in the UK cause people like him may get some support but, the majority of us would never vote for that individual!!

**Awol** · 24-10-2009, 17:28

Originally Posted by Underworld_Guitar_Hero

Whether you vote for the policies, the person or as a protest against the big parties. I challenge anyone to vote for someone (Griffin) who thrusts himself into the limelight, fails to prepare or rehearse. Laughs when challenged on serious and truthful questions of race, calls homosexuals "Creepy"and denies the holocaust! Cannot answer the a question from a 17 year old boy and quite frankly gets put on the rack by Jack Straw, seriously!!!!

I thought they went easy on him! Imagine him in front of a panel of squaddies along the split of the vote done today!!

He didnt go on Question Time to win. he went to lose, whinge and wine and garner sympathy and further support for his second rate collection bunch of loney pals.

I am glad we live in the UK cause people like him may get some support but, the majority of us would never vote for that individual!!

The majority of us don't have to. Labour won the last election with 22% of the vote. Given some surveys the BNP are already well above that.

**Moodybitch** · 24-10-2009, 17:56

While I wouldn't vote BNP, the whole immigration systems is a massive concern. However, I'd rather see a shake up (proper one) of the welfare system.

It's not about racism, we have our own home grown 3rd generation spongers to sort out too.

if we got a grip and had a benefits overhaul to apply to everyone(UK Citizens as well as non UK citizens, instantly this country would less attractive to those who seek to abuse its generosity. (And the home grown workshy nobs would be given a kick up the arrse too).

That said..if for some ridiculous reason the Tories didn't win..then who the hell is left to vote for?

**Monty417** · 24-10-2009, 20:04

I'm beginning to think that if there was a New Party, which didn't restrict membership to whites but had pride of Nationality, hard line immigration, terrorism, extremism and welfare polices, and were seriously old fashioned in terms of crime and punishment, they'd win the next election doing fucking hand stands.

Edited to add: And had the bottle to shout it from the rooftops.

**ICShiiteJobs** · 24-10-2009, 20:10

Originally Posted by Monty417

I'm beginning to think that if there was a New Party, which didn't restrict membership to whites but had pride of Nationality, hard line immigration, terrorism, extremism and welfare polices, and were seriously old fashioned in terms of crime and punishment, they'd win the next election doing fucking hand stands.

yip, and if they could stand up and be clear on their policies it would be a no contest. BUT...... with the media 'controlled' by labout / conservatives.... there's little chance. UNLESS ofcourse... someone did what the original goozestapper did and travel the length and breadth of the country giving speeched and raising their profile and appealling to the newly unemployed etc.... been done before.... in the 1930's to some pretty good effect.... ;)

**Fallschirmjager** · 24-10-2009, 20:13

Originally Posted by Monty417

I'm beginning to think that if there was a New Party, which didn't restrict membership to whites but had pride of Nationality, hard line immigration, terrorism, extremism and welfare polices, and were seriously old fashioned in terms of crime and punishment, they'd win the next election doing fucking hand stands.

Edited to add: And had the bottle to shout it from the rooftops.

Yep. I suppose it must be quite hard to get a party up and running to the stage where people take notice. I am frankly amazed there aren't any parties like you portray above.

**Gren** · 24-10-2009, 20:18

Originally Posted by THEY_STOOD_IN_THE_DOOR

just 1 on FJ's pic - i take it some of you most know the german paratrooper personally and his policial views - to call him a nazi paratrooper?

just if there's an iraq inquest - and we find out that the 2003 invation of iraq was illegal - and the then govt is held responable - tech that makes them war criminals - does that make me a labour war criminal paratrooper? cos i dont vote for them, or believe them - but i was there???

In all honesty, who gives an actual shite what anyone has as an avatar?

A small piccy does not make a racist or whatever, and yet you feel the need to bring it up as a major selling point to a reply?

I can only assume you didnt always land on your feet, ffs.

**Monty417** · 24-10-2009, 20:21

[quote="Fallschirmjager"]

Originally Posted by Monty417

I'm beginning to think that if there was a New Party, which didn't restrict membership to whites but had pride of Nationality, hard line immigration, terrorism, extremism and welfare polices, and were seriously old fashioned in terms of crime and punishment, they'd win the next election doing fucking hand stands.

Edited to add: And had the bottle to shout it from the rooftops.

Yep. I suppose it must be quite hard to get a party up and running to the stage where people take notice. I am frankly amazed there aren't any parties like you portray above.quote]

Younger people are being more and more brainwashed I reckon.

I'm so depressed with it, I'm logging off and getting seriously shitfaced for the first time in a long time. :(

**Markintime** · 24-10-2009, 20:22

Originally Posted by Monty417

I'm beginning to think that if there was a New Party, which didn't restrict membership to whites but had pride of Nationality, hard line immigration, terrorism, extremism and welfare polices, and were seriously old fashioned in terms of crime and punishment, they'd win the next election doing fucking hand stands.

Edited to add: And had the bottle to shout it from the rooftops.

Why a new party? That's what the Tories used to stand for.

**Moodybitch** · 24-10-2009, 20:26

[quote="Monty417"]

Originally Posted by Fallschirmjager

Originally Posted by Monty417

I'm beginning to think that if there was a New Party, which didn't restrict membership to whites but had pride of Nationality, hard line immigration, terrorism, extremism and welfare polices, and were seriously old fashioned in terms of crime and punishment, they'd win the next election doing fucking hand stands.

Edited to add: And had the bottle to shout it from the rooftops.

Yep. I suppose it must be quite hard to get a party up and running to the stage where people take notice. I am frankly amazed there aren't any parties like you portray above.quote]

Younger people are being more and more brainwashed I reckon.

I'm so depressed with it, I'm logging off and getting seriously shitfaced for the first time in a long time. :(

Younger people don't give a sh1t, they are too busy following "celebs" to care. Apathy rules.

**Northern Monkey** · 24-10-2009, 20:27

Apathy rules?

Who cares?

**Cuddles** · 26-10-2009, 13:14

Originally Posted by Barrack Room Lawyer

Originally Posted by Fallschirmjager

The Fallschirmjaeger ........... They were Wermacht.

I was always told they were part of the Luftwaffe?

That's correct "Wehrmacht Luftwaffe" - as opposed to wehrmacht Heer, and the Kriegsmarine! Number plates on Luftwaffe transport were preceded by WL, Army by WH etc. Wehrmacht is the catch-all for defence forces (literally translated), a la Bundeswehr nowadays.

**Monty417** · 26-10-2009, 13:45

Originally Posted by Cuddles

Originally Posted by Barrack Room Lawyer

Originally Posted by Fallschirmjager

The Fallschirmjaeger ........... They were Wermacht.

I was always told they were part of the Luftwaffe?

That's correct "Wehrmacht Luftwaffe" - as opposed to wehrmacht Heer, and the Kriegsmarine! Number plates on Luftwaffe transport were preceded by WL, Army by WH etc. Wehrmacht is the catch-all for defence forces (literally translated), a la Bundeswehr nowadays.

I don't know whether it's been mentioned earlier, but there were also specialist Waffen SS Fallschirmjaeger, formed in early 1944.

Extract from Wiki: The idea to form a paratrooper unit within the Waffen-SS, allegedly, came directly from ReichsfÃ¼hrer-SS Heinrich Himmler.

# Waffen SS

* 500th SS Parachute Battalion
* 600th SS Parachute Battalion
Considering that the new Waffen-SS unit of parachutists had to be employed in dangerous actions beyond the enemy lines, it was decided to extend enlistment to those in the SS disciplinary units which were formed from officers, non-commissioned officers, and soldiers who had had problems with the military law: an order of the SS-FHA (the SS High Command) fixed a percentage of 50% for the coming from volunteers from Waffen-SS units and the rest for volunteers from the disciplinary units.

**Gundulph** · 26-10-2009, 13:52

Have any Journo's jumped on the Poll results yet?

A clear statement to the BNP and anyone who thinks wrongly that the British Army is racist... the Poll VERY clearly states that British Soldiers and former serving Soldiers do not stand for racism in the ranks or on British soil.

**Cuddles** · 26-10-2009, 15:14

80% would not/do not support the BNP but that does not mean 80% are anti-racistt/racialist. I am not sure that we could claim, even in the era of values and standards and following successes in integration e.g. in the Foot Guards, that racism even on a "cultural" level isn't still a feature of Army life. However it is certainly less an issue than thirty years ago.

however the gingerist attitudes, typified by Patrick Mercer's cruel references in the house of commons, remain a major problem.