Thread: Nob Brown-mis-spelled dead Soldiers name in letter to family

Originally Posted by sfub

Although I have no time for The Sun, or indeed any of the Red Tops, I have found the conversation between Brown and Mrs Janes interesting; I'm amazed at how tongue tied a man in his position is.

You make, of course, the assumption that the conversation has been accurately recorded and transcribed.

Recording without consent is of course illegal. That apart, unless the mother is gifted in shorthand, I assume she had the phone on loudspeaker with some journalist merrily scribing away as they spoke.

It is natural for mothers to lash out when in grief. Most, however, don't try and score political points at the same time, and even fewer do it for potential financial gain, in a pre-determined, pre-planned and calculating fashion.

Christina Schmidt set the benchmark - this woman falls short by a considerable margin.

Originally Posted by Fallschirmjager

Her husband needs to get a grip of her if you ask me. Not one other family has complained about his grammar or handwriting. He spelt her surname wrong by a genuine mistake. She should see the hand written letter for what it is intended to be and stop getting on her high horse.

I await replies from hand-wringers and wailers.

You missed out grief whores

Originally Posted by Walt_waltberg_walterton

Gordon Brown was wrong to SEND out a letter so badly written and illegeable (should have been checked).
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Yes, it certainly should have been. :D

Originally Posted by pombsen-armchair-warrior

It is natural for mothers to lash out when in grief. Most, however, don't try and score political points at the same time, and even fewer do it for potential financial gain, in a pre-determined, pre-planned and calculating fashion.

I wonder what the mothers of others soldiers lost on operations make of her attention seeking ways.

Originally Posted by johnboyzzz

Originally Posted by Fallschirmjager

Her husband needs to get a grip of her if you ask me. Not one other family has complained about his grammar or handwriting. He spelt her surname wrong by a genuine mistake. She should see the hand written letter for what it is intended to be and stop getting on her high horse.

I await replies from hand-wringers and wailers.

You missed out grief whores

They'll be along shortly, as soon as the timetable for the Outrage Bus is finalised.

Is it not illegal to record a private phone call without informing the other party of that fact?
Exploitation for the suns own agenda springs to mind, personaly I would want to keep my own grief private unless a provable injustice had occured which could affect others.

They'll be along shortly, as soon as the timetable for the Outrage Bus is finalised

Bus is VOR.

Personally I believe he should have had it checked by an aide, yes it was and is a good gesture but in this case attention to detail could have saved him a lot of hassle.

For the mother her loss is one of the worst and I cannot even think how distraught I would be if my child had been killed. However having the Scum on speed dial to highlight this instead of dealing with it by writing back and pointing out the errors would have given her greater kudos in the long run.

The Scum is a shite paper out to exploit who it can when it can and will achieve any means to do so, even if it means fabricating the truth or taking advantage of a bereaved parent of a soldier who has died to score political points.

The one thing we are missing here is a lad has died serving his country, his family are grieving and BOTH sides are attempting to score points by using that grief. To me that is the sad thing about the whole episode.

Originally Posted by Fallschirmjager

Originally Posted by pombsen-armchair-warrior

It is natural for mothers to lash out when in grief. Most, however, don't try and score political points at the same time, and even fewer do it for potential financial gain, in a pre-determined, pre-planned and calculating fashion.

I wonder what the mothers of others soldiers lost on operations make of her attention seeking ways.

I imagine the rest of them told the Scum to do one, or at least their VO did it for them before the press could get their hooks in.

I wonder what her son would've thought about this? I've made it quite clear to my parents that my intention is to get onto a front line deployment and I'd go knowing full well what the risks are.

I sure as heck wouldn't mant my death being used as some kind of political / scummy red top tool.

Originally Posted by TheHatsRevenge

Is it not illegal to record a private phone call without informing the other party of that fact?

I replied to that one yesterday on another thread

http://www.arrse.co.uk/Forums/viewto.../start=20.html

Ding Ding!

Originally Posted by Walt_waltberg_walterton

Gordon Brown was wrong to SEND out a letter so badly written and illegeable (should have been checked).

Easy mistake to make isn't it......???

Mum of Guardsman Jamie Janes tears Brown a new a***hole

No she didn't. All she did was lose any remaining dignity she may have had over the death of her son.

It would be interesting to know how much money she has been paid by The Sun to be so grief stricken, yet unusually au fait with Chinook Mk IIIs and CASEVACs. I've been in the Army for 14 years and my mother couldn't tell you what Cap-badge I was!

Originally Posted by pombsen-armchair-warrior

Christina Schmidt set the benchmark - this woman falls short by a considerable margin.

Well said.

Originally Posted by chimera

Originally Posted by pombsen-armchair-warrior

Christina Schmidt set the benchmark - this woman falls short by a considerable margin.

Well said.

Christina Schmid did too