Nob Brown-mis-spelled dead Soldiers name in letter to family

**Booty** · 09-11-2009, 23:43

Originally Posted by dante242

Originally Posted by Dunservin

Originally Posted by FiveAlpha

Originally Posted by Bazzinho1977

Originally Posted by Sangreal

What a load of tosh. The only people who will get irritated about this story are of the sort that routinely use one of the following bone phrases (not exhaustive!) that seem to litter ARRSE's threads these days:

Zanu Labour
Liarbour (and all other conceivable iterations)
Tony Bliar
Neu Arbeit
Simples
'Them'
'I've met good TA and bad TA, and I've met good Regs and bad Regs.'
'Let's start up the outrage bus.'

Fuckin' get a life!

May I commend this post to the house.

I'll second that.

Thirded.

Forthed :D

And fithed

**MrPVRd** · 09-11-2009, 23:46

The engine of the outrage bus is always idling over.

This may seem a regrettable faux-pas, with good intent behind it, but there is so much distrust and unhappiness with this government's military policies that only a little spark is required.

Whether it is the loss of trust over Iraq WMD lies, equipment shortages, claims of going into Afghanistan "without a shot being fired"* or enough helicopters and boots on the ground.

There is simply no trust in this government, and it is not a "communication" issue as "they" like to pretend.

This is why the outrage bus is always waiting. And now Mandelson has weighed in - he of the "chinless wonders" comment regarding the Brigade of Guards - so it is officially a class war issue.

*admittedly taken out of context, but Reid deserves a barrowload of cr@p for even spouting such rubbish.

**bullet_catcher** · 09-11-2009, 23:53

Hello Mr P, the link doesn't work for me. Could you try again please?

**AFA06** · 10-11-2009, 02:37

Can't stand Cyclops but this is a non-starter

He's had a lot of them to write recently, even that half wit idiotic Scotsman must find it very, very hard to write them, especially as everyone is hounding him and blaming him for soldier's deaths.

Give the bloke some leeway!!!

**Wija** · 10-11-2009, 05:20

The Sun using a grieving Mother to further bash an idiot. How very surprising....

The guy has a disability FFS, He is going blind. So he has mong handwriting and spelling, big fluck...

**the_boy_syrup** · 10-11-2009, 07:37

According to the BBC the Sun has now released a recording off the phone call in which the mother challenges the PM over lack of kit and he would have been alive if there were more helicopters

Isn't it illegal to record phone calls ?

The Sun obviously have an agenda and she is being played by them in my veiw which is more dispicable than a badly written letter

**lewiscollins** · 10-11-2009, 08:22

Transcript of phone call here

**sfub** · 10-11-2009, 08:37

Taxi for Brown?

**Track_Link** · 10-11-2009, 08:38

Nice of The Sun to exploit a bereaved Mother...

Throbbers.

**chimera** · 10-11-2009, 08:44

We can all sympathise with the grief of a mother so soon after her son's death. I hope that she can show the hard evidence that he "bled to death" because of a delay in casevac caused by lack of rotary air. That would be powerful stuff.

**BoomShackerLacker** · 10-11-2009, 08:44

Sir Humphrey: 'Oh Prime Minister what a lovely letter and so personal and touching - especially the natural earthy hand'

**wedge35** · 10-11-2009, 08:54

'I feel so emotional about this, Prime Minister, that I'm going to give the whole transcript to The Sun, whilst posing with a phone looking angry'.

**BANDSMAN69** · 10-11-2009, 08:58

I agree with you on this one Track_Link, as much a we can all sympathise with the mothers grief the Sun is exploiting the mother.

**BoomShackerLacker** · 10-11-2009, 09:02

Originally Posted by Track_Link

Nice of The Sun to exploit a bereaved Mother...

Throbbers.

Possibly.

The free press is probably the most powerful element of British democracy these days, sadly; as in this complex society we'll learn little of the workings of power without the 'expose' (accent over the last 'e'!). Add to that the Internet we're probably in the most transparent 'era' in all history; it either drives away 'good politicians' to hide in other careers or drives misdoing underground.

It is likely that Brown is the last 'non-media' 'persona' to make it to high office; whatever your competency technically you must 'look good'. Our desire for a charismatic 'feel good' image is more of an indictment on us and our lack of 'depth' than Brown though. We should look to ourselves and inability to 'shape a debate' that has significance; the shallow buyers of the Sun are the cancer :P . As in "Happy is the land who has heroes; unhappy is the land who has need of heroes" (Brecht)

**re-stilly** · 10-11-2009, 09:05

Originally Posted by the_boy_syrup

According to the BBC the Sun has now released a recording off the phone call in which the mother challenges the PM over lack of kit and he would have been alive if there were more helicopters

Isn't it illegal to record phone calls ?

The Sun obviously have an agenda and she is being played by them in my veiw which is more dispicable than a badly written letter

Heard this on the way in, seems it started off as an apology and then rapidly descended into questions about equipment etc. Being a bit cynical I just wonder who was feeding her the questions??