Thread: An Open Letter to LCpl Joe Glenton

Originally Posted by Recce19

Very good letter Wedgey!

Changed my FB status to: 'LCpl' Joe Glenton, you do not speak for the average Tom - you are a coward and have let your muckers down big time!!! I for one, turn my back on you!

Don't mind if I borrow that do you? Let's see if all ARRSERs can change their FB Status to the same.

Open letter to Arrse members,

Dear all,

As a member of the general public, can I just say I think this guy is a spineless, gutless coward.

If he had a moral issue with the war, why didn't have the balls to go to his CO, look him in the eye and clearly state his views and take the punishment.

Then that would have made him "brave".

I will be disappointed if he does NOT face full sentance from a court marshall. I've paid his wages - I want my pound of flesh!

I hope the money he is getting from the newspapers is going to Hadley Court and Help for Heroes. Will he be a hero and visit those who have lost limbs and tell them why he failed to go on ops?

God bless the members of our Armed forces and keep them safe.

Best wishes

Chris Shaw

Save Shorncliffe "Make history - Save History"

For those of you who are worried that the 'Lefties' will brush this under the carpet, I don't see how they can. It was the 'Lefties' under Blair that sent us in to Afghanistan. His stance, whether heartfelt or just convenient, that it is an illegal war is a direct attack on the Government.
He does have the right to his opinion but not to disobey orders. Yesterday's demo was political and he is not allowed to use his being a soldier to further political groups. If he really believed this war was wrong and felt strongly enough to refuse to soldier then he should have made his stance public from the start, a letter to a newspaper, contact the anti war group, make your stance. He was even too yellow to do that, he ran away.

Every time I hear or read about this cnut, i cant help being reminded of this

http://www.metrolyrics.com/brave-sir...ty-python.html

Originally Posted by CRmeansCeilingReached

Originally Posted by TalaveraTom

CR.
Again somebody who hasn't bothered to read the post properly...Read it again, i stated the same thing myself, no he doesn't have the right to say what he likes but how are you going to stop him??? Then when you've stopped him how are you going to enforce your punishment without looking bad in the public eye? Don't try and tell me that it doesn't matter what they think, because it does! Otherwise we'd still be dragging people round the back of the Dutch barn for a dig, rather than have them tapping the boards in front of the BC. A far more expensive option all round!...Anyway that's enough from me.

i did read it properly. yes, you said that, but you also said:

Originally Posted by TalaveraTom

Originally Posted by DeltaDog

Originally Posted by TalaveraTom

I'm afraid ladies and gents that this bloke has the right to an opinion, whether we agree or not!

No he's not. One of the sacrafices we make when we sign the dotted line is to surrender our right to free speech and ackowledge that we will do what the Army wants, when the Army wants (as long as it's legal)

DD...What a load of Gonads!! Where did you get that idea from? You show me where it states that i have given away my right to free speech, just because i signed on the dotted line?

[color=maroon][size=12]whereupon you were pointed at the DIN about etc. glenton is not causing a problem by what he thinks; he is causing a problem by what he says and does in the public eye.

as for the army being concerned with "looking bad in the public eye" if they punish him for going AWOL / Sect 69 / disobeying an order - don't you think the maintenance of military discipline is more important than what a bunch of anti-war protesters think / say? would you like those floodgates opened every time some scrote goes AWOL because he doesn't like the army any more... then says "i was making a political protest" when he's caught again?

i think the little twat should be made an example of. that decision would have the backing of most serving and ex-personnel. if the peace protesters don't like it, they can... erm... protest. as is their right.

glenton simply can not be allowed to get away with this. no matter how much he has tried to muddy the waters since his return from AWOL - he broke the law. he has continued to break military law. he must be punished. end of.

the only reason he jumped on this "anti war" bandwagon is that it represents his best chance of getting a lighter sentence. his solicitor said he feared being imprisoned for an extended period for being AWOL.

you shouldn't be taken in by his ridiculous smokescreen. he can try as many deception plans as he wants. if he had announced his anti-war agenda to the media when he went AWOL, instead of when he was facing punishment for it two years later... he might have some credibility.

as i said earlier - retrospective justification for somebody trying to avoid punishment. send the snivelling little turd to jail for being AWOL, bringing the army into disrepute, disobeying the DIN, and anything else he has done (e.g. disobeying his CO, if that report was correct).

if all that smoke is getting in the way, switch to thermal and it becomes a clear picture again. jail him.

CR...Why am i not surprised that you read my post and then took it out of context, it's not the first time you've done that is it?? Outrage bus leaving here anyone??... You can of course find the said DIN that says you give up any rights to free speech or free thought, even though you're the one who physically guarantees everyone else can have it, yeah right. I ask again, How are they going to enforce their punishment fully? A suitable response has thus far eluded me...By the way, at what point have i said he should avoid jail or not be punished? If you can find that quote then do highlight that aswell won't you! As for your assumption that i have somehow fallen for some sort of smokescreen set up by the lefties, think again! Oh wait a minute we gave up that right didn't we when we signed on??

Gents,
It doesn't matter to the outside world when he made his agenda clear, the point is he has now, and that will guarantee him a lesser punishment than a normal bod who went diffy for two years! This is in the open and he has the AWL on his side, so he will virtually walk away scot free. I personally hope not though, as this could set a precedent and undermine the whole structure. If he walks, don't be surprised if this bod is doing chat shows in the future and earning a hefty wedge (no pun intended 35) from his actions, like some sort of freedom warrior fighting against the war and for human rights. Just the sort of thing the general populace lap up and the red tops create bandwagons about...Irrespective of the outcome, i don't think he'll be asked to Soldier On do you?? Besides what WE want and what HE gets are two different things altogether...We shall see if the military hierarchy are prepared to stand up to the politico's on this one and punish him properly,openly...But fairly, you understand??

TT, let's just agree the guy's a cunt and leave it at that.

Send him to a dark dank cell in The Tower of London, feed him bread and water and give him a old blanket until his trial date

All the chit chat aside that does say it all!!!

Wedge 35
A very well drafted letter written with logic and passion, a rare combination.

Maybe a journo will publish it and include the words "Serving and ex members of the military community have voiced their disgust on a website, and commented that the man is a yellow bellied, gutless, cnut."

Excellent letter by Wedge35.

I cannot feel anything but profound distaste for this individual and his attempts to find some grand moral justification for going AWOL. I fervently hope he receives all he deserves.

But Glenton should make the most of his moment in the sun. He will soon be forgotten by his current supporters, by the media, by the military. And I cannot help but wonder at the employment market for ex-RLC L/Cpls who take 'principled stands'. He is a seven days wonder, who will not even be a footnote in history - can anyone recall the name of the RAF MO who refused to soldier in Iraq?

C_C

Originally Posted by CRmeansCeilingReached

TT, let's just agree the guy's a cunt and leave it at that.

This is definitely one instance where the insult 'cunt' should not be used, unless emphasised by the adjectives, useless syphiloid.

well done good letter fella!

Can't wait for the postal strike to end.

Originally Posted by CRmeansCeilingReached

TT, let's just agree the guy's a cunt and leave it at that.

CR...I concur with your assessment wholeheartedly, but don't want this bod benefiting from his actions at the expense of those that were prepared to crack on and do HIS job for him