Discuss pap 10 vs medical discharge at the Armed Forces Redundancy Scheme 2010 forum within the The Army Rumour Service website; hi, i'm a currently serving soldier who is on a 'pap-10 list'.
i was injured ...
hi, i'm a currently serving soldier who is on a 'pap-10 list'.
i was injured in afghanistan which has resulted in various injuries for which i was made a perm p7 mnd grading at the beginning of 2011.
over the last couple of months i have been informed i am on a 'pap-10' list for which finding out any information just leads me to a generic answer of 'i don't know' or 'i've not heard anything else' from my seniors.
i previously had a job which has now been handed over to another member of the sqn as my boss feels i could be disharged at anytime, so now i am pretty much just emptying the battery on my phone playing games on it 5 days a week. (some may think that getting paid to do this is easy but believe me, it is soul destroying, mind numbing ****)
and to cut a long story short, i want any help/info on the what this pap-10 business is and whether its drastically different from a full medical discharge. and how benefits regarding to a lump sum / pension for both pap-10 and MD are different??
Firstly you will go through the RECU process, your CO will fill in Appx9 to PAP 10 and you should be asked to sign a form to allow your medical details to be used. Your CO will have to make a recommendation to APC about your employability in trade. APC OH will look at this and you should be given the chance to try to transfer into another trade/Corps if the is a place for you. If there is no place then a Medical Board may recommend discharge under a number of QRs and that will decide what kind of a pension or discharge you get. Ask your RAO staff for a chance to read up on PAP10, you need to be pro-active and understand the procedure if you are to have tne best possible outcome.
thatnks for your reply,
i have had a full medical board in colchester to which my medical grade was made permanement p7 with me basically not being able to do anything 'green' so to speak as i cant do any impact training.
i have filled out an appendix 18 with my rcmo back in may and also signed for my med docs to be released.
i will definately be asking the rao to gain more info on the pap-10 but as i said before i usually run into a brick wall with answers like 'i dont know' etc. and seen as im a spr any attempt to push this further gets swiftly rejected due to my rank or lack of.
The whole process is known as RECU (Resticted Employment in Current Unit). It only applies to soldiers (soon to include Offrs) who are premanently downgraded below retention standards for their Regt or Corps. The onus is on the CO to make an employment decision on you, once he is notified of your downgrade on an App 9 by the Medical chain.
He can choose to either retain you on an App 8 or apply for transfer, re-allocation or discharge on an App 22. The important thing to note is that, if asked by the CoC whether you are a volunteer for transfer, always say yes. This means that if nothing can be found for you employment wise, you can be discharged under QRs 9.385 which attracts alll the same financial benefits of a medical discharge. If you said no, then you would be discharged under QRs 9.414 SNLR (Services No Longer Required) and this attracts no financial benefits at all.
In addition, if the CoC wish to retain you, in the current climate it is unlikely that APC will be able to find anything, in which case DM (A) will direct your CoC to initiate an App 22.
The CoC must provide you with a full Implications brief once they have initiated this process. This includes the RCMO, RAO etc. Also, you may want to contact SPVA for advice too.
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