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Discuss It Really Is Free!!! MCITP, CompTIA Security+ at the Armed Forces Redundancy Scheme 2010 forum within the The Army Rumour Service website; Ha ha, ok. But I think your credits were (and still are) Standard Learning Credit, ...
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    Ha ha, ok. But I think your credits were (and still are) Standard Learning Credit, worth up to £175 a year.
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    So, the course isn't free then?

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    Free you say? Free, as in you will gain your certifications without incurring any personal expense?

    Or do you mean, we wont charge you a training fee but will charge you a slightly higher amount for accommodation and exams? In effect still getting the same overall course fee.

    Please also keep in mind that if you are not charging a training fee, that guys will not be able to use their ELC or IRTC grant towards the overall cost of the course as they can only be claimed against training fees.
    Fine for those who manage to claim the N.S and D.S (accommodation and meals) allowances to help offset course costs, but with the recent tightening of the belts, this is becoming increasingly difficult to get authorized for most, especially for those who have done less than their 22 years.

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    Fatboy, our course has always been tied accommodation, the cost of this does not alter for the redundancy personnel, therefore they can use their IRTC grant toward further training in whatever they wish. The ELC element would be used for further Microsoft modules by Remote Access Learning, this is a proven method in students achieving the upper MCITP qualification in either Enterprise or Server Administrator. ELC can also be used to pay for the three Microsoft modules being taught in our current resettlement course, effectively a 5 week residential course. I understand the tightening of budgets having left last year as a FSA in the Army, but until the JSP is altered, ALL service personnel are entitled to NS and DS regardless. Since I have been in this job, looking in from the other side, I can see that this is having an effect, especially on RN personnel, but it must be emphasised to all Service Leavers exactly what their enititlements are by the relevant HR personnel.
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    What I was mainly getting at is that you are implying that the courses are free, but they are not free. They are the same cost they've always been, just funded by using the D.S and N.S allowances without the need of the IRTC grant. No harm in that I suppose, just sales talk.I'm assuming then that these allowances fund the first part of the courses you linked, which is the 4 week MCITP Enterprise Support certification. The Win 7 version of the MCDST course. 4 weeks is a lot of time to give up from your GRT allowance to only achieve such a basic certification. Most commercial providers would deliver this over 10 days to 2 weeks. You also have the disadvantage that the majority of Enterprise and other business are still running XP and Server 2003 and will be for some time.

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    Do the courses also include exam/certificate costs or are those met by the student?

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    What if I bring my own accommodation (caravan)? Is the course still free?
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    Sorry for the late reply, but for some reason I couldn't post. Cow the course includes all Microsoft exam fees. Legs, no you can't it will get clamped. Cynical person, get a life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by partyr View Post
    Legs, no you can't it will get clamped. Cynical person, get a life.
    What if she parks it at a campsite or another legal location and gets the bus in?
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