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Discuss PTSD and Ecstasy whats your thoughts on the matter. at the Afghanistan forum within the The Army Rumour Service website; Originally Posted by Hexitele Yeah good idea. The next big thing is to treat depression ...
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    Senior Member amazing__lobster's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hexitele View Post
    Yeah good idea.

    The next big thing is to treat depression with smack...
    Not so far off - apparently opiates have the potential to be a very useful/effective treatment for depression but the moral panic about drugs caused by the tabloids is one of reasons why it will never happen.

    Also similar to people who are against medicinal cannabis (although ironically, apparently there's research showing that normal over-the-counter paracetamol actually works on the same system cannabis does).
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    5 pages and nobody called journo?
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    Quote Originally Posted by crow_bag View Post
    I think the main problem would be funding to carry out a good sized trial, not sure how they'd get around the possible addiction problems.

    Im not entirely keen on medication "for" PTSD, I was under the impression that anti-depressants treated the depression and don't do much for the flash backs, intrusive thoughts and all the other good stuff. Though I did find that once the depression was under control the symptom of the PTSD were much easier to deal with and I seemed to make more progress a lot faster than I had when I was medication free.
    To get someone credible to do such research would be challenging.
    I can't imagine it's a big enough market for drug companies to invest loads of money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkz View Post
    I'd be happy to try it if it had only been tested on one rat, if it didn't kill it!
    That would be a shame, your body is a temple.
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    hmmmm ull see the smack heads claiming ptsd to get a few tabs, then popping when ever they like to get off cdt
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    I honestly had a civvy locum sit there and say with a straight face "Have you tried the power of prayer?" And me a card carrying heathen . I even walked out and left her undamaged
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    Quote Originally Posted by jarrod248 View Post
    Well we can't say it does work on a trial of 20 people can we?
    Would you be happy to take any drug that was trialled on just 20 people.
    Jarrod

    I am pleased to see they have returned your cap badge, belt and sword.

    Of course, I wouldn't be happy if any drug was prescribed without proper clinical trials and approval processes but i don't think that this what is being proposed. I can also see that this announcement may be dangerous as it may encourage people to self prescribe.

    I don't claim to be an expert on research ethics or on the statistics of clinical trials. However, I have had a look that the attached and, to a non medical person, it looks like there is a fair bit of evidence that indicates that it is definately looking into further.

    However, I am not qualified to give an opinion on the matter but i don't think the fact that we are talking about a street drug should deter research.
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    As I understand it, dexamphetamene aka Billy Whiz, remains a drug of choice for kids with ADD and many pain management drugs are opiate based.

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    Therefore, i think that further research is a good idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anglian-sam View Post
    yes i think it was and was given to the luftwaffe for there bombing missions so they could do one mission fly back to Berlin ect then load up and go again, or so i have been told.
    RAF Bomber Command aircrew were given Amphetamine pills too. One of the old boys on the TV said the other night. Only one of them fessed up to taking one & said never again. I could see his point too the ABSOLUTE last place you,d wanna be while buzzing off your nut is stuck in a plane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 31alpha View Post
    I honestly had a civvy locum sit there and say with a straight face "Have you tried the power of prayer?" And me a card carrying heathen . I even walked out and left her undamaged
    I can top that, imho.

    I sat there and was told to pretend I was a tree, pushing my trainers into the ground as though they were spreading out like roots while I became a tree while I wore headphones that played rain forest music, first through one ear and then the other.

    They call it grounding.

    I walked out too. And went to the pub.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkNinja View Post
    5 pages and nobody called journo?
    Why would they ?

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