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    What is more, where do these people go? To quote a military mastermind of our time, General Melchet 'gad, its a barren featureless desert out there'
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    If they can be persuaded to leave their cultural paraphenelia (AKs, RPGs, IED kits) at home, I'd suggest a series of "strategic resettlement camps" in downtown Luton.

    If the good general's description of Helmand terrain is accurate, they would, I am sure, feel quite at home there.

    RE: The Nisei Americans
    Indeed, a shameful episode, but AFAIK, there was no actual insurgency underway among Japanese-Americans. And IIRC, we did something similar to Anglo-Jerries in WWI.
    Britain's bloodiest post-WWII battle - the full story is told at last:
    http://tothelastround.wordpress.com/

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    We banged 'em up, mainly on the Isle of Man. But I don't think we recruited from the camps for them to fight, whilst their families were still interned.

    It got really nasty, even for those who were only German by name after long years in Britian, when the Lusitania went down. And, of course, the most famous of our people with German Origin changed their name from the Saxe-Coburg and Gotha to Windsors, after one of their palaces.

    The Mountbattens also changed their names, previously being Battenbergs (like the cake!). Perhaps Victoria I's plan to name her son Wettin (an old anglo-saxon name) would have been better.

    Incidentally, the Gotha... was an early Heavy Bomber used by the Germans to bomb Britian during Op Turk's Cross. Just prior to the name change :D

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    Quote Originally Posted by loaded_not_ready View Post
    Seem to remember a piece on C4 (I think). The USMC unit in Sangin at the time had lost more troops in a single deployment compared to the highest number of Brits killed on a tour. They were even re-occupying some old Brit PBs. Seems like a lesson learnt the hard way for the USMC.
    Thats a stupid myth. It originated when someone lumped together KIA and WIA.
    The British casualties in Helmand are still 2x higher than those of the US.

    The original number of USMC KIA was 30, and 80 WIA = 110 casualties.
    Despite all of this the USMC is still on the offensive. Its LAR battalions are patrolling the Pakistani border and infantry combing the poppy fields. These are veterans of Al Anbar, very experienced and aggresive riflemen.
    Same 6th Marines who took Bellau Wood from the Germans in 1918 and stood in their way outside of Paris.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0311 View Post
    Thats a stupid myth. It originated when someone lumped together KIA and WIA.
    The British casualties in Helmand are still 2x higher than those of the US.

    The original number of USMC KIA was 30, and 80 WIA = 110 casualties.
    Despite all of this the USMC is still on the offensive. Its LAR battalions are patrolling the Pakistani border and infantry combing the poppy fields. These are veterans of Al Anbar, very experienced and aggresive riflemen.
    Same 6th Marines who took Bellau Wood from the Germans in 1918 and stood in their way outside of Paris.
    That's fairly impressive!
    Most of their SNCOs must be pushing 130 years old.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Badger_Heed View Post
    That's fairly impressive!
    Most of their SNCOs must be pushing 130 years old.
    SgtMaj Dan Daly is still around yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0311 View Post
    SgtMaj Dan Daly is still around yes.
    Ahh, splendid, please pass on my fondest regards.

    On an unrelated matter, do you still take it in the back eye you trolling cunt?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badger_Heed View Post
    Ahh, splendid, please pass on my fondest regards.

    On an unrelated matter, do you still take it in the back eye you trolling cunt?
    No, my navigation is kinda poor, I was supposed to land at Whitehaven...is this ireland or something?



    In all honesty, it wasnt me who was trolling.
    That myth needed to be set straight, but seeing as how the US Marines once again proved everyone wrong in Sangin...I see how you people cope after your Marines were once again bested, you just had to find a way to get back at the USMC.

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    Ah, there you are, you tit.

    I can't decide whether you look like this...




    or like this.

    "Is it a crime to hit a student across the back of the head with a snooker ball in a sock?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0311 View Post
    These are veterans of Al Anbar, very experienced and aggresive riflemen.
    Same 6th Marines who took Bellau Wood from the Germans in 1918 and stood in their way outside of Paris.
    Sounds like a proud outfit, sir. I'm sure they'll do just fine, unless someone puts them in charge of guarding an embassy.



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