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**Legs** · 18-07-2008, 11:11

Originally Posted by mediumwhiteamericano

Originally Posted by Legs

Originally Posted by Biscuits_AB

No, but if you've really grown some tits....you might be in with a shout!

Woohoo!! ££££££££ Kerr-Ching!!!!

Hey Legs, you can't sue if you wanted them to grow.

Bugger.

But I did break a nail last week. What about that?

**jim4244** · 18-07-2008, 11:17

Was a suitable risk assessment carried out by a competent person? - No

Was a briefing given to the cadets (children) before the exercise was undertaken? - No

Did one of the children suffer an injury which could have been reasonable foreseen? - Yes

Then get your f*****g hand in your pocket a pay out you bunch of scuffers!

Simple eh?

**semper** · 18-07-2008, 23:07

this is going to kill one more activity for the Cadets due to greed and more paperwork for us Adults, are you surprised that some Adults find it easier not to organise an activity ?

**Argee2007** · 18-07-2008, 23:23

The poor girl's scarred for life :(

http://www.shetland-news.co.uk/news_...of%20court.htm

**semper** · 19-07-2008, 00:32

Originally Posted by Argee2007

The poor girl's scarred for life :(

http://www.shetland-news.co.uk/news_...of%20court.htm

Jesus ! she looks like a village Mong, not being nasty or PC etc, but she does look to me like a council estate gold digger. Badly maintained teeth, complexion and general demeanor.

I hardly noticed the scar at first also it begs the question, why did it take her so long to claim ?

**Padrat** · 19-07-2008, 01:07

i think she should pay mod for the rock in the face improving her looks and what part of the instruction on the word "BELOW!" didn't she understand

**cbgramc** · 19-07-2008, 02:16

Semper thats you isn't, come on be honest

**slab** · 19-07-2008, 06:34

Originally Posted by jim4244

Was a suitable risk assessment carried out by a competent person? - No

Was a briefing given to the cadets (children) before the exercise was undertaken? - No

Did one of the children suffer an injury which could have been reasonable foreseen? - Yes

Then get your f*****g hand in your pocket a pay out you bunch of scuffers!

Simple eh?

ACF Scotland does seem to have a problem with training safety and maintaining a duty of care to its cadets. If they're not being injured in rock falls, then they drown them in the Hebrides
I haven't read the full accident report (which you can get from the above link), but I understand the ACF officer was not fully qualified and failed even to carry out a headcount, which alone could have saved Kaylee's life. He obviously left his red book in the Mess that day. Good night in the bar, sir?

Most UK Bdes have a Training Safety WO on the establishment whose job amongst others is to provide the world's supply of risk assessment templates, including that for TR&A, which I take it was what the cadets were doing. When County HQ submitted their greenfield form (application to mount an exercise) the risk assessment should have been attached, and a recce carried out.

Anybody been disciplined or resigned I wonder?

Any ACF Scotland AIs wish to comment?

**semper** · 19-07-2008, 08:14

Originally Posted by slab

Originally Posted by jim4244

Was a suitable risk assessment carried out by a competent person? - No

Was a briefing given to the cadets (children) before the exercise was undertaken? - No

Did one of the children suffer an injury which could have been reasonable foreseen? - Yes

Then get your f*****g hand in your pocket a pay out you bunch of scuffers!

Simple eh?

ACF Scotland does seem to have a problem with training safety and maintaining a duty of care to its cadets. If they're not being injured in rock falls, then they drown them in the Hebrides
I haven't read the full accident report (which you can get from the above link), but I understand the ACF officer was not fully qualified and failed even to carry out a headcount, which alone could have saved Kaylee's life. He obviously left his red book in the Mess that day. Good night in the bar, sir?

Most UK Bdes have a Training Safety WO on the establishment whose job amongst others is to provide the world's supply of risk assessment templates, including that for TR&A, which I take it was what the cadets were doing. When County HQ submitted their greenfield form (application to mount an exercise) the risk assessment should have been attached, and a recce carried out.

Anybody been disciplined or resigned I wonder?

Any ACF Scotland AIs wish to comment?

I don't think it is appropriate to comment further until the Inquiry has concluded, I think the inquest has been held but the Inquiry to the incident is still ongoing.