Safety distance for old BFA 100mtrs in front, new type 1mtr in front.

Originally Posted by booty_cadet

About scaling of PP for SCC units, it is 13 parade purpose per unit for a 12+1 guard.

wrong its actualy 9 for every unit in the corps but as some units can't have them the rest get spread so most will hope to get 13

Not on general issue but about 50 were on trial last year. The role out is hoped to be later this year.

Just used the SA80s during CLC, i think it'll be a welcome addition to the ACF - so fewer bloody stoppages!

Originally Posted by semper

Originally Posted by Nickhere

Finding this thread quite interesting I musy say, thought there are a few things that concern me.

1. When I went back to my ACF battalion last summer after leaving to join the Army, we had a number of A2 LSWs to use. No one knew the correct drills for them and were doing things that were either not necessary or completely wrong (I've noticed someone here say that you don't need to forward assist. You DO forward assist, as it is in the drills. The forward assist is incase of any dust or sand stopping the bolt face engaging correctly and has nothing to do with the strength of the spring. That's why many weapons system, like the M16 and C7 all have forward assists as part of the drills).

2. The lack of adherance to regs is also concerning me. The subject of TRFs is an important one, as if this simple part is ignored then who knows what else is. TRFs are not to be worn by the ACF, so Rfn_Warrior if you are sensible and professional, you'll remove it. ACF TRFs are also unnecessary.

3. Last of all, the lack of training (unless things have changed in the last six months, please say if they have) for adult instructors, particularly the BHQ, on the A2 is causing people to do stupid things.

4. Cleaning the A2 is not simple and plenty of training should be given to thorough cleaning so that future cadets can enjoy the system

Any thoughts??

Hello Mate

on point 3. that is why we were having this study weekend, we did all the drill, stoppage drills, and Forward Assist.

Ponit 4. We do Strip and assemble which includes the bolt carrier assembly, recoil Spring and cocking handle AND piston rod, gas cylinder plug and gas cylinder.

the aim is to train the cadets for when (if) they get introduced.

re my comments on Forward assist, I did not say it is not needed in practice the DS guy said that , he has been to Afgahnistan and Iraq with it, used it every day , he said it is now more robust and reliable compared to the A1 along with a new robust Magazine one for live rounds and another with Yellow stripes for blanks with a built in safety catch that springs out if you try to insert a live round in a blank magazine.

He also mentioned he now rarely gets a stoppage on the A2 compared to the A1, which can only be a good thing on ranges with more time devoted to marksmanship.

all in all I would say this is vastly better than the GP system and was mentioned earlier some small cadets have trouble cocking and keeping it steady which is very dangerous requiring more of the ARD staff attention and having to c0ck for them.


Rfn_Warrior, f�ck off !! you are killing the thread with your immature comments ditto for the adults for encouraging him to carry on and taking this off topic. ignore him. there is more important things to worry about

Are you disabled?

Yeah, wheel chair bound since 1966.

Are there any updates or dates of issue to the ACF/CCF?

When Armourers were at Altcar inspecting the weapons, they said April next year but weren't quite sure. One was civvie, one was REME...

The new weapons are necessary because few armourers are qualified to fix A1s, and the spares simply aren't there. It's much better from my point of view; every time I use a GP, without fail, I try to cock it with my left hand, and it drives me up the wall; I'd much rather they had a weapon I'm familiar with.
BFAs are a good plan too; the end is nigh for the ridiculous 50m safety distance. Also, cadets might stop turning up with bayonets purchased off ebay

The reason it's delayed (so I'm told) is that every time they weld the change lever to R, someone finds another way of moving it to A, so the whole process has to start again. This being the army, they'll probably issue them, take them back, issue them and take them back three or four times for minor faults before they're issued for good.

Why has the computer censored a perfectly legitimate use of the verb denoting the action of moving the working parts to the rear? FFS

Originally Posted by Bravo_Zulu

The new weapons are necessary because few armourers are qualified to fix A1s, and the spares simply aren't there.

All Armourers are qualified to fix A1's, and I have not had any problems getting spares for the ACF/ATC that this location supports.