pimp,
I have just read on another thread that Major Paul Harding, whom I served with when we were both nigs back in the 70's, and who has just been killed in Iraq, was chairman of The Rifles Dress Committee.

I haven't seen him in many years, but apart from being a good soldier (lets be honest you don't get to command support company as an LE major unless you are pretty special) the thing I remember most about Paul is that he was a kind and thoughtful guy who always cared about people in the wider regimental family, not just regular soldiers or those still serving but attached personel and the old and bold. I'm sure his influence was great, but as you say the family ethos was drilled into us from the day we arrived at Peninsula Barracks.

Some of our cadets have RGJ stable belts and we let them continue to wear them as it is quite expensive to buy the new Rifles one, but most choose not to buy a belt. I expect that the RGJ ones will be outlawed at some point. Our det present the best recruit with an ACF one to wear until the end of the next recruits cadre. Our cadet NCO's want to wear Rifles rank slides, CO says no and many in CoC will pull them up if they do so, however our DC is OK with it. We also have a county flash and don't allow anyone to wear TRF's.

I have noticed the Cadets that share our location stiil wear the "Thin Red Line" flash of the Argylls...We as TA Argylls has now lost the Sub title because of the formation of the 7 Scots with three Hackles (A&SH,BW & Highlanders)..5 Scots (A&SH) stiil wears it as it is part of 16AA...we however are not so no reason to wear it....so why do the cadets wear it?

Not that I want it back....Too many flashes for me! but it seem some of the ACF DS seem to have lost any ACF badges except in number 2's worn on the shoulders....

The only reason even to mention this...is the Walt factor of one or two of the Officers/Adult's ( Not all some are good blokes and Ex Reg/TA who are too old to do a shift with us!) who have been caught "Walting" about Reg/TA postings...They know who they are.....

Ninja,
In some cases traditions which the old and bold want preserved, and which the grown up army won't preserve, get preserved by cadet units.

For decades after the KRRC became 2 RGJ there were KRRC cadets. Today the only people who wear the back badge of the Gloucesters on thier berets, are cadets detachments based in Gloucestershire, Berkshire and Wiltshire. That is what the Regimental Dress Committee decided.

So perhaps there are reasons why the AXF in your area wear the flash, you'd have to ask someone locally I guess.

As for the ACF titles thing, no good reason for not wearing them that I can see.

Originally Posted by PISCATOR

HQ Land Command issued guidance on 2 Aug 06. Para 6 of the letter states:

"May I also take this opportubity to reaffirm that Cadets and Adults of both the ACF and CCF (Army) must not wear any formation badges and regimental/corps tactical flashes when wearing uniform"

Quite simplr really

And quite a recent guidance as well, easy to quote.

1) I changed County in January.

2) I own only my stable belt from previous TA service, and not from any ACF affiliations. To be honest, I don't like them at all, I just wondered what other people thought. I am really glad the RGJ/Rifles embrace the whole Regimental Family and I wish more Regiments and Corps did the same, I'm just one of those miserable twats who likes to keep regimental accoutrements for soldiers who earn them in trade training.

Edited to say that technically I didn't really earn my belt either, but other TA boys and girls will appreciate the "if you want me to wear it then why isn't it issued, Sir" conversations

We have a neat little shield/TRF. Nice bit of detailed embroidery too.

Not that I need it as I am conspicuous enough being badged Army Air Corps and being a fat b a stard too.

Originally Posted by Tartan_Ninja

I have noticed the Cadets that share our location stiil wear the "Thin Red Line" flash of the Argylls...We as TA Argylls has now lost the Sub title because of the formation of the 7 Scots with three Hackles (A&SH,BW & Highlanders)..5 Scots (A&SH) stiil wears it as it is part of 16AA...we however are not so no reason to wear it....so why do the cadets wear it?

Not that I want it back....Too many flashes for me! but it seem some of the ACF DS seem to have lost any ACF badges except in number 2's worn on the shoulders....

The only reason even to mention this...is the Walt factor of one or two of the Officers/Adult's ( Not all some are good blokes and Ex Reg/TA who are too old to do a shift with us!) who have been caught "Walting" about Reg/TA postings...They know who they are.....

think i may be able to shed some light on this for you, approx 1997 all affiliated cadet battalions to a+sh were given a one off issue of the TRL flash (small retangular one) this was attached to all combat jackets at the time(acf had not been issued with cs95 shirts by then). If its these ones you are talking about its basically because they have not been removed from the older combat jackets,

Now if its the TRL on the green diamond that 5 scots currently wear this has not been issued to the acf if you see an adult wearing this then they have some how "aquired" this! (Draw your own conclusions)

Similarily the 99% of the adults(in the 2 battalions who have affiliated cadets) will have been issued with a rank slide that either states ACF or their battalion name then ACF

Now if its the TRL on the green diamond that 5 scots currently wear this has not been issued to the acf if you see an adult wearing this then they have some how "aquired" this! (Draw your own conclusions)

Similarily the 99% of the adults(in the 2 battalions who have affiliated cadets) will have been issued with a rank slide that either states ACF or their battalion name then ACF

It's the "Beer mat"I'm on about......It was ony just 5 Scots who wear this but 51st Highland Argyll Coys..ie D & E...this has been dropped when the rebadging took place! The understanding it it is used as a DZ flash now with 5 Scots role...not too fussed about rank slides as its a pain when swapping the only one with any title on it!(not that we have any)

The Dress Regs for the RRS can be seen on the REGT HQ website and dress states down loaded...

Originally Posted by Tartan_Ninja

It's the "Beer mat"I'm on about......It was ony just 5 Scots who wear this but 51st Highland Argyll Coys..ie D & E...this has been dropped when the rebadging took place! The understanding it it is used as a DZ flash now with 5 Scots role.

Nah, no cadets or adults should be wearing it!

I know I've mentioned this on here before, but at London Soldier 2006 I saw RMP badged AI's walting it up with Red berets on. Funnest thing was the Regular RMP NCO giving them a bollocking on it. I spoke to him afterwards, apparently they've been repeatedly told that only serving RMP can wear the Red beret. They keep doing it and keep getting caught and the powers that be arent happy. He said one AI even put up an "MP" TRF ( the ones I saw didnt I imust admit)