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Not many cadets post on this forum, as its seen more for AIs like us, and when cadets do post here, they often get a bit of stick, like Cadet_Chandler/Emo.

I get the impression that cadets want more military themes, less AT, Go-karting/sports etc; Its the ARMY CADET FORCE, not the scouts or local youth club, where they can do such things without the uniform rules, regulations, drill etc;

I think we should concentrate on what we can uniquely provide, as a military 'taster' organisation. Thats how we attract, retain, and get the best from our recruits, both cadets and adult.

some training exercersises with the TA would be awsome as we can reli get to prove our worth and dispell any views that cadets are just wannabe soldiers.

but no doubt the health and safety jerks wont have any of it

[quote="Cadet_Chandler"]some training exercersises with the TA would be awsome as we can reli get to prove our worth and dispell any views that cadets are just wannabe soldiers.

but no doubt the health and safety jerks wont have any of it[/quote]

Basic English lessons wouldn’t go amiss either :D

dispell any views that cadets are just wannabe soldiers.

Do you want to be a soldier? Then you are a wanabee soldier. Of course not all cadets do want to be soldiers, so it is innacurate to describe them all as such.

Sorry pimp, you did say keep this sensible.

I am arranging parachuting for some older cadets, I am happy to be the facilitator...rather them than me frankly. It's going down well.

Trying to arrange an excercise with an affiliated TA unit, but it isn't realistic to integrate with them in the field so it's likely to end up with the cadets playing enemy. Can't see any problems so long as the TA guys are properly briefed so as to avoid any 10 Para/4 RGJ moments.

Like you I'd be pleased to hear others ideas.

Originally Posted by Cadet_Chandler

some training exercersises with the TA would be awsome as we can reli get to prove our worth and dispell any views that cadets are just wannabe soldiers.

but no doubt the health and safety jerks wont have any of it

TA and regular ASSISTANCE and PARTICIPATION in County/Battallion wide ACF excercises would be better, but the TA are no longer the 'Gun club with a drink problem' that some units were in the dim and distant past, and are now very much a reserve force highly likely to deploy in AFG/Iraq, so we in the ACF have much less in common.

There are other valid political reasons why joint training is unlikely and probably unnacceptable in the current climate.

Health and safety Jerks. Well thank-you. What you don't realise is us AIs sometimes have to protect you cadets from yourselves. If we take you out on ex, and you get your over-enthusiastic, careless self burnt/blinded/broken/poisoned or something, its our arses in the wringer, and the end result will be an instant ban on anything even remotely like that again for the forseeable future.

We are all carrying enough risk already, a possible risk of being pursued through the courts and being made bankrupt or even imprisoned. Why should I take that extra risk, just because you don't care and think I am a jerk!

I agree that H&S has gone too far in some areas of our activities, but this is due in the main to a minority of silly, immature cadets, not properly supervised by adults staff who havent read their Red book in a while, or ever, ballsing it up for those who are diligent, and can run activities with minimum, acceptable risk.

If you think you do badly out of this stance, you should count yourself lucky your not in the ATC. They don't do anything with any risk, slim or otherwise. Not because they have maimed and killed loads of cadets, but because they are cowards living in constant fear of legal action.

You see if you do something stupid, its my fault. Its me that pays the price, Not you. (Unless of course your permamently maimed or dead, that is!)

Originally Posted by walt_of_the_walts

Not many cadets post on this forum, as its seen more for AIs like us, and when cadets do post here, they often get a bit of stick, like Cadet_Chandler/Emo.

...and 12 minutes later, who posts?????

Originally Posted by Cadet_Chandler

some training exercersises with the TA would be awsome as we can reli get to prove our worth and dispell any views that cadets are just wannabe soldiers.

but no doubt the health and safety jerks wont have any of it

Please, please get off your parants computer and go forth to Multiply

In fairness our badged detachments have actually recieved some help from our parent unit 4 PARA and have deployed on exercise with them twice this year which has been excellent with good support from our parent unit 10 coy .
Their staff and serving members have allways been very good as far as their affiliated cadet units are concerned a legacy from the old 10 para days I think ,to me I would assume that the more of this that happens the better.
whilst it is understandable that the cadets are obviously going to remain a self contained element of any such weekend (you couldn't exactly break them up in the TA sections )on the whole any involvement will give the cadets something to aspire to and feel part of.
I personally try to instill as much regimental pride as possible in the cadets and make them feel as much a part of the REG family as possible.
To the point that we were actually allocated battle honours by the Regimental Colonel for our cadet platoons.
But it would appear that many cadet detachment staff seem reluctant to approach their TA units for help/involvement I mean at the end of the day if you don't ask you don't get.