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**abacus** · 20-11-2005, 18:44

Got an extremely good friend who could be VERY interested in joining the ACF as an Adult Instructor (AI) but other than telling her that it is a great thing to do, I don’t have enough specific knowledge to sell it to her properly.

So:

What is so good about being an AI with the ACF?

Friend is not an ARRSEr (edit to add: who normally posts in this forum) but when we have enough quality replies I will be sending her a link to this thread. It occurs to me that many others would want to use the thread to recruit friends of their own into service so as many positive and welcoming posts as possible please.

Originally Posted by Note to MODs

Please would you monitor this thread to ensure only serious replies. We need to encourage as many of the right sort of people to get involved with ACF as possible.

Please would you also make it a sticky - thanks.

**barbs** · 20-11-2005, 18:49

This might provide some useful answers to FAQs:

http://www.armycadets.com/acf/recrui...or/career.aspx

**antphilip** · 20-11-2005, 18:57

Having just volunteered the one thing that stuck out to me was the fact that the process sounded like it takes a long long time before you're even allowed to get stuck in. Other than that i'd have to leave it to the people who have been through it...

**semper** · 20-11-2005, 19:56

see my FAQ thread http://www.arrse.com/cpgn2/Forums/vi...c/t=20589.html
, also any questions you like to ask me you can via PM or here. there is a website by Instructors for Instructors
http://www.armycadetforce.com/forum/index.php

**babyblue** · 20-11-2005, 22:08

Cheers guys for the information. This is something I am very interested in. Thanks again.

**semper** · 21-11-2005, 10:03

Originally Posted by abacus

Got an extremely good friend who could be VERY interested in joining the ACF as an Adult Instructor (AI) but other than telling her that it is a great thing to do, I don’t have enough specific knowledge to sell it to her properly.

So:

What is so good about being an AI with the ACF?

whats so good, where to start ?
it gives you an opportunity to stay in green without the bullsh1t factor !

, seriously you have the the responsibility of training young Adults, steering them away from a life of crime and respecting Queen and Country, your Military training will be useful and you can teach them interesting skills, which can be taught as an interest lesson on top of the normal APC which must be taught as per the manual, you will be providing a positive role model for many cadets who have broken homes, have abusive relationship with parents and families, you can show them that not everybody is bad, there are good people about, there is a good social scene, travel a bit to different parts of the country, you will be making an impression on many cadets for years to come. :D you do get paid , up to 20 days TA equivalent pay at the rank you are at.

the bad ?

Social climbers especially officers, The Children act which you must keep in mind when training kids especially Girls, limitations in what you can do because of the Compensation Culture, Risk assesment culture for the above, some back stabbing going on as in any organisation.

the long wait for clearance (Essential) it can take from 2 to 6 months. mine took 6 months.

it is not all bad, it is a good organisation based on sound principals, many of us have been in years, including some who come straight off civvie street, they get trained by the Cadet Training Team , which is staffed by Regular soldiers, if you can ignore the poiltics, get past the silly rules due to Compo Culture and Risk adverse society you can do a lot however limited it can be, there are ways and means, if you are still interested , go to your Local detachment make yourself known to the CO, go for a few weeks as a Civilian Instructor see how they do things in your local unit, if still interested put an application in and see how it goes.:D

**oh_bug.ger** · 21-11-2005, 10:14

Semper has summed it up nicely

I am always amazed at how much impact and influence the AI's can have on some kids, one lad at my det was brought to us by his stepdad after being arrested for the fourth time, six months later he doesnt hang around on street corners and hasnt been nicked since he joined us.

That is probrably the best part of the ACF giving kids a bit of direction stability and self respect also that important sense of belonging that many kids dont seem to have anymore.

**brighton hippy** · 22-11-2005, 23:10

well I've been turned down
ex reg
actual qualification in outward bound activitys and a years experiance working with kids and not even invited to selection

**Northern_Biff** · 22-11-2005, 23:21

Originally Posted by brighton hippy

well I've been turned down
ex reg
actual qualification in outward bound activitys and a years experiance working with kids and not even invited to selection

Did you tell them you were a hippy?

or.......................the system works lol

**Northern_Biff** · 22-11-2005, 23:24

Originally Posted by oh_bug.ger

Semper has summed it up nicely

I am always amazed at how much impact and influence the AI's can have on some kids, one lad at my det was brought to us by his stepdad after being arrested for the fourth time, six months later he doesnt hang around on street corners and hasnt been nicked since he joined us.

That is probrably the best part of the ACF giving kids a bit of direction stability and self respect also that important sense of belonging that many kids dont seem to have anymore.

Abso_fecking_lutely. The pleasure in seeing them improve their lot far outweighs the negatives, or it was situation 30 years ago.

NB